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Posted by nekusar 10 hours ago

Sony deletes more movies from the accounts of people who ‘bought’ them(www.techdirt.com)
542 points | 335 commentspage 3
pluralmonad 9 hours ago|
Hopefully most of these folks that have been scammed know how to sail the high seas.
chuckadams 6 hours ago|
Which is a bit tricky on a Playstation. Sure you can scrounge up some Jellyfin-ish sort of thing, but most people buy on the console platform because they specifically don't want to jump through hoops.
MYEUHD 7 hours ago||
Previous discussions:

Sony Deletes 551 Movies PlayStation Owners Paid For (294 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48747389

Sony erases digital content from libraries (74 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48730904

acd 9 hours ago||
Isnt there an issue with "Buy" and different countries marketing laws? Ie it implies "Hold" or "TemporaryKeep".

Guess it will be an upswing of BlueRay movies. Already happening with LPs and CDs

tremon 8 hours ago|
This anti-consumer stuff also applies to physical Blu-rays: each BD can contain a revocation list of player keys and distributor keys, and official players are required to update their keylists from that. Every time you insert a new disc in your player, you're playing russian roulette with your existing library.
toast0 7 hours ago|||
Blu-Ray key revocation does not work that way. Players with revoked keys simply can't play discs that were encrypted to disallow them.

Discs that worked with a player will continue to work, as long as the physical mechanisms are still good.

Technically, maybe, since the player authenticates with the drive, if you updated the firmware on the drive you could lockout the player. I could see windows update potentially helpfully pushing a bd-rom drive firmware update, but it's not happening on a standalone player.

It's not ideal that your existing player might not read new discs, but hopefully you use your discs soon after purchase and you could return them if you can't get a firmware update with a new key. (Of course, I'm guilty of buying discs to watch eventually; will be annoying if my keys were revoked)

galleywest200 7 hours ago|||
How does that work if my player is offline? A dedicated BluRay player has no reason to connect to the internet.
inigyou 6 hours ago||
Each disc contains the latest revocation list at the time of its creation. If you put in a disc with a newer revocation list, your player updates. Same thing was done on the Nintendo Wii.
21asdffdsa12 7 hours ago||
Once its deleted it becomes a indefinite p(irate) license.
runamuck 2 hours ago||
Is there any way to buy long (decades) lasting physical media?
SlightlyLeftPad 6 hours ago||
Without laws to force companies to honor this, The only reasonable answer to this ownership issue will end up being piracy. Also, “Buying” the movie and making a copy of it for personal use shouldn’t be illegal.
stronglikedan 6 hours ago|
> Also, “Buying” the movie and making a copy of it for personal use shouldn’t be illegal.

Unless I missed something recently, it's not illegal. You've always had the right to make backups of content that you purchased legally. It's the distribution that has been illegal.

akkartik 4 hours ago|||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_A... outlaws circumvention of DRM.
Jtarii 5 hours ago|||
It is legal to rip a digital copy of a movie you purcahsed from itunes to your hard drive?

I would have assumed it would have at least been against whatever TOC you agreed to when signing up to itunes.

j1elo 6 hours ago||
I we are heading towards a digital world, we need to solve the issue of how to ensure by legal means that in 800 years people will still be able to study current day media and arts.
xpct 7 hours ago||
If you bought movies on a digital platform that would later go under (could be Sony one day), what would happen to your collection? Is it transferable in any way? If not, it's already a risk no matter which platform you use.
stronglikedan 5 hours ago|
that's the point. you don't "buy" movies from digital platforms. you merely rent them, regardless of what the button said
xpct 5 hours ago||
Well I'd say these are different risks. It's either tied to the agreement Sony has with the movie provider, or with the platform itself. Either one could pull out. Or, my point, the company could also go under.

What is the agreement tied to?

m463 4 hours ago||
Isn't this where some lawyers step in and file a class action lawsuit?
K0balt 4 hours ago|
Seems like a class action suit ready-made? Idk why this isn’t absolutely lawyer-crack.

I mean, on one hand you have centuries of precedent about what “buy” means, and on the other you have one party depriving another party of access to their property , without providing alternative access, defacto depriving them of their property in absolute terms.

This seems like a clear case of theft, conspiracy to commit theft, and fraudulent advertising, interstate commerce in the pursuit of an organized criminal enterprise , etc.

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