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Posted by vincent_s 16 hours ago

Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence(www.kimi.com)
https://www.kimi.com/en

Kimi K3 Intelligence, Performance & Price Analysis: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/kimi-k3

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sudosysgen 12 hours ago|
https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3

"The full model weights will be released by July 27, 2026."

simianwords 12 hours ago||
Kimi 3's Artificial Analysis benchmark scores between GPT Sol and Opus 4.8.

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models

benjiro29 13 hours ago||
Full benchmarks in Mandarin:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/V4xhEIy8xDXSMDPrPkmUAQ

Translation:

https://mp-weixin-qq-com.translate.goog/s/V4xhEIy8xDXSMDPrPk...

Cheaper then GPT 5.6 Sol (according to their results) ...

vblanco 12 hours ago||
Another deepseek moment? it seems they have fully caught with fable tier of models, and this was a lot sooner than was expected.
InsideOutSanta 11 hours ago|
Yeah, I would have expected Zhipu to ship a Fable-adjacent model by the end of the year, but the jump from Kimi 2.7 (which I think is just barely at the level where it is genuinely helpful for coding) to this is absolutely bonkers. And this is clearly not just benchmaxing; this thing actually works.

If you told me I could only use this and never use Fable or Sol again, I'd shrug and not feel like I'd lost much.

procgen 11 hours ago|||
Now it seems the best way to tell if a frontier model is benchmaxxed is to check if it can autonomously solve a major open mathematical problem.
re-thc 11 hours ago|||
> Yeah, I would have expected Zhipu to ship a Fable-adjacent model by the end of the year

There were talks of a GLM 5.3 in August, so maybe not that far away...

tskj 15 hours ago||
I'm curious if they're keeping up mostly due to distillation or how that works. Does anyone outside China know?
linzhangrun 4 hours ago|
with no extra resistance from either the government or the public, while also having the largest technical talent system
minraws 14 hours ago||
The question remains is it open or not, if it's open I will use it if it's not well I was happily being fucked over by an American tech giant...
benjiro29 7 hours ago|
Open Weight release is on 27 july.
cute_boi 15 hours ago||
Thank you Kimi. We no longer need to rely that much on Dario and his supreme lackeys to decide what is safe or not for simple tasks.
yieldcrv 8 hours ago||
Anthropic needs to IPO and dump on you all’s retirement plans quick

This was only a month and a half delay after Opus 4.8 and Fable 5 spent 18 days in embargo, resurrected with a strict classifier that handicaps it

We’re at endgame

sdfefcxv 8 hours ago|
Its already too late

The sentiment has shifted far too much amongst the investor community and amongst enterprises who are the life-blood of the revenue streams of Anthropic and OAI.

Further releases of Chinese models that demonstrate the gap is not growing substantially is a huge problem. The spending will be called into question.

calburnofsouth 16 hours ago||
Curious why the thinking mention chatgpt for a moment https://ibb.co/JFdhMN95
wren6991 13 hours ago|
LLMs are hopelessly confused about which model they are. Ask DeepSeek V4 Flash which model it is, and it's 50/50 between "I am DeepSeek (深度求索)" and "I am part of the GPT-4 series developed by OpenAI." Ask Claude, it'll say Claude. Ask Claude in Chinese, it'll sometimes say DeepSeek.

It's incredibly funny, but I don't know whether it's related to distillation; it's probably quite rare for a distilled trace to mention which model it came from. (I'm not saying distillation doesn't happen, just that it's possibly unrelated.)

For your specific example, the internet is full of "As a large language model developed by OpenAI, I can't..." due to people pasting chatbot output without reading it. Seems reasonable for that to surface as part of the CoT for your question about model capabilities.

khalic 16 hours ago|
I really need to finish my automated model evaluation harness, I can't keep up with this pace
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