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Posted by vincent_s 14 hours ago

Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence(www.kimi.com)
https://www.kimi.com/en

Kimi K3 Intelligence, Performance & Price Analysis: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/kimi-k3

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root-parent 11 hours ago|
Wants a phone number...no thank you.
taf2 12 hours ago||
I'm not finding this on huggingface yet is and open model or is kimi now a closed model ?
luciana1u 12 hours ago||
at this rate we'll have a new state-of-the-art model before i finish typing this comment
antiloper 13 hours ago||
Seems to only use ≈60% as many reasoning tokens as 2.6. So the price hike is not as bad as it looks.
ls612 3 hours ago||
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-xi-outline-ai-dip...

Reuters is reporting that Xi is planning to endorse open source/weights AI in a speech tomorrow. This is probably highly relevant to why Moonshot is committing to making Kimi open weights.

tw1984 13 hours ago||
> Among the models tested, its overall intelligence ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol.

> The full model weights of Kimi K3 will be released in the coming days. More details on the architecture, training, and evaluation will be published together with the Kimi K3 technical report.

https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart

markasoftware 13 hours ago||
They've removed the paragraph about releasing model weights.
xur17 12 hours ago||
Does that mean this one won't be open source?
markasoftware 10 hours ago||
nitpicking and beating a dead horse, but it was never going to be open source, at best open weight.
nkmnz 13 hours ago||
> > ...ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol.

So... it ranks THIRD?

polski-g 13 hours ago|||
USSR is proud to announce that they won 2nd place in an Olympic contest. The filthy USA regime? Next to last!

(There were only two countries competing in said event)

amelius 13 hours ago||
Apple proudly announced they won 2nd place in a competition among smartphone OSes.
yreg 13 hours ago||
Apple would never claim to be second.
amelius 9 hours ago|||
Reminds me of a guy who claimed a "Flawless victory".
ayushpai 12 hours ago|||
1st in open weight
sudosysgen 13 hours ago|||
The literal interpretation of that sentence is "when it is second or third, it is only behind Fable 5 or 5.6 Sol". And indeed they give benchmarks where it is ahead of one but not both models.
XCSme 13 hours ago||
No blog post? Benchmarks?
dmix 13 hours ago||
This might have been published before they released their tech blog, I don't see one
anonfunction 12 hours ago|||
There's this: https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart
frozenseven 9 hours ago|||
Blog post here: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3
XCSme 9 hours ago||
Benchmarks look ok, but they don't mention anything about the issue with the model being extremely slow and verbose.

That being said, it's awesome to have such an open-source model, even if now it's unusable mostly locally, with hardware improvements, in a couple of years, the verbosity/speed wouldn't matter as much as the intelligence.

naaqq 13 hours ago||
Will be later.
matheusmoreira 4 hours ago|
Holy fuck. This is an open weights model? It's literally trailing the frontier models! This is insane!

It's my dream to own hardware that can run this!

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