In my experience GLM 5.2 is a pretty good Opus replacement. But K3 has not given me an experience on par with Sol or Fable. The price/intelligence ratio might still make sense. But it’s not very inspiring when it comes to my real world tasks. I’m doing pretty mundane web stuff.

I cannot imagine wanting the product of the entire intellectual output of humanity since recorded history to be an expensive, paywalled commercial product owned by 5 or so of the most insufferable, detestable people who ever lived. Why would you want to live in that world. We should all be rooting for open source AI to win.

Related:

Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48935342

Kimi K3, and what we can still learn from the pelican benchmark

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48947717

Its worthwhile to have a quote from the article as some comment without reading:

"...I’ve been running Kimi K3 alongside Claude on my normal coding work, and for all practical purposes I can’t tell them apart. Same tasks, same quality of output, and near identical token counts to get there. I expected an open model to be sloppier or to grind through more tokens on the way to the same answer, and neither turned out to be true.

The prices are nowhere near each other. K3’s API runs $3 per million input tokens and $15 per million output. Claude’s top model costs $10 and $50 for the same units. The subscription side is even more lopsided..."

The dumb efforts by the US AI industry to use fear mongering for regulatory capture will hand dominance to China and others.

In a few years there will be Mythos level open weight models hosted by the lowest bidder anyway.

I have a nagging suspicion that most/all of those people spending a lot of time generating code using LLMs and blogging about it were not really very influential or inspired coders before, and are now raised to stardom of sorts due to the ability to generate some "meh" stuff of marginal significance with the fancy new machinery.

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> The prices are nowhere near each other. K3’s API runs $3 per million input tokens and $15 per million output. Claude’s top model costs $10 and $50 for the same units.

And this is the point where your internal compiler should have started shouting 'Type Error'

Notice the trick here?

> Then there’s the fine print. Claude couldn’t sustain Fable access on the twenty dollar plan, so they turned it off, and the plan quietly falls back to Opus.

Where is the Fable-class Kimi model at all?