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Posted by speckx 7 hours ago

Long presumed dead, a thriving coral reef is discovered in West Africa(e360.yale.edu)
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...
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functionmouse 5 hours ago|
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tomhow 1 hour ago||
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

bluebarbet 1 hour ago|||
The comment is flippant but IMO it's also a pithy summary of an important argument in this debate. To which some of the responses are thoughtful and substantive.

Tangential: I quite often slap down comments for much the same reasons you're using. No objections there, in fact I wish more people would do it.

functionmouse 1 hour ago|||
I think you're right. Thanks.
mips_avatar 4 hours ago|||
Very few people travel to visit the Amazon especially in Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador. In the absence of tourist money these amazing ecosystems are being turned into agriculture and logged. In the protected areas supported by eco tourism the sound of the insects is deafening. But a few miles away in the banana plantations the area is completely silent. Even on “organic” banana plantations every insect is killed.
lemonberry 5 hours ago|||
I walk an old logging trail near my house. 5 years or so ago I was walking and came across a lady slipper. Then another and another. I stopped counting at around 100. I've never seen so many in one place. It was incredible. I stopped taking people there when they've bloomed to help preserve them. It's a free and public place, but on a lightly travelled road so it doesn't actually get much traffic. Anyone that takes that walk at the right time of year will see them, but I've no interest in helping the inevitable happen if word gets out.
akk0 5 hours ago||
Not having heard of this plant before, I was rather confused why people would leave so much footwear on this trail.
lemonberry 4 hours ago|||
Apologies, I assumed common knowledge when I shouldn't have. It's a lovely orchid that resembles a slipper.

Here's a link from the USDA Forest Service:

https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/plant-of-the-week/cyprip...

soperj 5 hours ago|||
haha yes, 100% thought this was about someone dumping used shoes in a pristine area before your comment.
pixl97 4 hours ago||
I listen to too many crime podcasts. My mind was going, one slipper, the second slipper, then the body.
interloxia 4 hours ago||
Or all of those feet in BC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discover...

try botany:

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3CBOpT2-NRvoc2ecFMDCsA

slibhb 5 hours ago|||
Yeah, only publish stories about coral bleaching, animals going extinct, and forest fires. Censor any good news at all costs!
dlcarrier 4 hours ago|||
You don't even need to actively censor it; it's human nature to not only solely pay attention to bad news, but also to amplify it. It's generally true for all mammals, but they scale of things we're conscious of is orders of magnitude larger than any other mammal species.
aboardRat4 4 hours ago|||
Forest fires are natural.

Coral bleaching seems too actually be a sign of prosperity, not suffering.

bix6 4 hours ago|||
Glyphosate has made forest fires worse.

Bleaching happens when the symbiosis breaks down due to elevated temps. That is due to suffering and causes suffering.

aboardRat4 5 minutes ago|||
>Glyphosate has made forest fires worse.

How? How does this work?

>Bleaching happens when the symbiosis breaks down due to elevated temps.

The first part is correct, the second is unknown. In 2016, 84% of corals bleached, the highest number. 2016 did global warming peak in 2016?

I admit, saying "prosperity" was provocative. It's probably not a sign of prosperity. But what exactly it is a sign of, we have little idea.

mythrwy 3 hours ago|||
I'm not a big fan of synthetic chemicals in the food supply but I can't help wondering how Glyphosate has made forest fires worse?
pixl97 4 hours ago||||
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stasomatic 2 hours ago|||
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Eueudhsbsj32 4 hours ago|||
I think it depends. In developing countries, ecotourism even when poorly managed is better for conservation than uncontrolled fishing/farming.
peter_stokes 4 hours ago|||
Not in developing countries. Especially not when in the commons (e.g. territorial waters). Awareness + western tourism is often the only way these things get protected.
asdfman123 3 hours ago|||
Hey there Mr. Jambo
ars 4 hours ago|||
What's the point in it existing then? Just for a couple of the chosen few?

I'm aware that lots of people can be destructive, but there's a balance.

1970-01-01 3 hours ago||
Shut up about the exact location, but do tell us about it. Just make it hard enough so the ignorant tourism industry cannot find it.
danteocualesjr 2 hours ago||
That's wild
nothinggoesaway 4 hours ago|
Chemical sunscreen famously kills coral.

Some dermatologists have noted that sunscreen is little used in Africa. [1]

I’m not saying that is the only explanation for the reef’s preservation, but it’s likely a significant contributing factor.

[1] https://theconversation.com/sunscreen-wouldnt-have-saved-bob...

wildfireday2 4 hours ago|
That and being 175 feet below the surface. You’re not getting “sunscreen” on mesophotic coral.