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Posted by ryanmerket 7 hours ago

Jack Dorsey launches Buzz to combine team chat, AI agents and Git hosting(runtimewire.com)
https://x.com/jack/status/2079605800998146171, https://xcancel.com/jack/status/2079605800998146171

https://buzz.xyz/

194 points | 185 commentspage 3
tlongwell-block 3 hours ago|
Hi, folks

There's a brief write-up on Buzz here https://engineering.block.xyz/blog/buzz

philipwhiuk 2 hours ago|
You start with this premise

> It’s great and works really well for us, but it raises lots of questions. Does everyone get a bot? If people share one, whose credentials does it use?

Eventually you throw in this admission in the middle of other stuff:

> Buzz gives each agent its own key. The agent’s owner signs a narrowly scoped authorization. The agent then signs its own work with its own identity.

So you're explicitly picking a bot per person, you're just calling them an agent. But you never really admit this because you call it 'an agent' rather than "the user's agent". You're still ending up with lots of agents each owned by people, you're just writing another orchestration layer yourself.

> The agent remains the author. Its credential proves who authorized it and under what conditions.

Right yeh, so the human is the responsible party.

> If an agent key leaks, revoke the agent without replacing the human identity behind it.

Just like you revoke an app-key on GitHub/Slack. This isn't a revolutionary thing you're doing.

You then throw in this curveball.

> Buzz can also run an agent’s model requests on another community member’s machine.

How? How is this resource managed or limited? Do I have to assume Buzz will just borrow my laptop's CPU & GPU at random?

tlongwell-block 2 hours ago||
Hi!

> So you're explicitly picking a bot per person, you're just calling them an agent. But you never really admit this because you call it 'an agent' rather than "the user's agent". You're still ending up with lots of agents each owned by people, you're just writing another orchestration layer yourself.

Giving everyone their own agent/bot/app in Slack is nontrivial because of how Slack apps work. If you're okay with them impersonating you, it's easy, but that's weird and I don't like having to guess/discern if I'm talking to you or a bot wearing your face

> How? How is this resource managed or limited? Do I have to assume Buzz will just borrow my laptop's CPU & GPU at random?

This is opt in. It's an integration with https://github.com/Mesh-LLM/mesh-llm that scopes shared compute to your Buzz community. This is very early right now and we're working to get it right. But the idea of a totally self-sovereign, self-hosted community providing its own inference is exciting.

minraws 5 hours ago||
The name is probably not the best fit but if we can get a good solution that's not horrible that's easy to self host I and open-source I am fine with it.

Though I fear this might not be well maintained or have a good foundation being so heavily agent focused but I will out of sheer ambition of a more open stack support anything that help make it a possibility.

Also the git hosting stuff seems a bit sus tbh.

noodlescb 5 hours ago||
Interesting idea. I think the "multiplayer mode for AI development" bit resonates somewhat. Biggest problem is that I do think most companies have a ton of key contributors that find git/code intimidating, so part of me thinks the real answer here will be stuff like Surfboard, Town, etc. that can work with git AND the work tools in a more user friendly, browser-first way.
fidotron 3 hours ago||
This is an interesting step in a fairly obvious direction.

I wonder how they plan to make mobile work, and it's amusing going with an xyz domain given their reputation.

bilsbie 3 hours ago||
This is basically the ide of the future if you think about it. If bots do all the coding then this is where you’ll code.
p2detar 4 hours ago||
Too much talk about LLMs and too little about the self-hosting part of this project. Self-hosted stuff looks appealing to me. We dropped Slack as an option in the past because we couldn't self-host it.
hathym 3 hours ago||
I suffered before I was able to click on the button to open github repo
grim_io 6 hours ago||
Marketing bullshit aside, this is just bots in chat rooms, right? Am I the crazy one?
malfist 6 hours ago||
I think you're crazy. It's not just bots in chat rooms, it's bots in chat room with an AI Investor Hype Money™
windexh8er 5 hours ago|||
Kind of amazing that given the state of the world money is still focused on remixes of different forms of social engagement. Is this because it's an obvious place to display ads? Or is it something else?

I'd like to think if I were JD that I would be focusing on something a bit more tangible for the world. A more useful aspect of tech to emerge or be invested in.

But, apparently AI agents in chat that sit adjacent to code is The Next Big Thing?

shimman 5 hours ago||
The only playbook big tech in the US seems to have are creating a platform and trying to extract rents off it.
noodlescb 5 hours ago|||
Are you implying that a tech billionaire, who moved to a private South American compound, who looks like a man that microdoses ayahuasca daily, might just a rich kid tinkering to stay relevant without the incentive or context to actually BE relevant anymore?
serf 6 hours ago|||
yeah, but the reality is that every chat room bot integration is half-assed, and the good integrations force you to use chat rooms/services that are either a nuissance to spin up and join, heavily opinionated, or lack features, or even the most basic security and privacy stances.

there's definitely room for someone to do it right.

i'm skeptical if it'll be dorsey, however.

blitzar 5 hours ago|||
Will someone please get these bots some NFTs
verdverm 5 hours ago||
I thought they were the ones that are supposed to be making them for me, and to make that digital coinage for me via the ai autonomous business proxy
mplewis 5 hours ago||
b-b-but it has a github stapled onto it!
dredmorbius 5 hours ago||
Earlier / dupe: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48995199>
asdev 5 hours ago|
No one is going to churn Slack for this just because it is "Agent First". Slack is more than good enough to tag Agents and will fill in the missing pieces slowly
braebo 2 hours ago||
I would pay money to not have to use slack
teach 4 hours ago||
Slack's approach is NOT good enough, because the version of the Agent that lives in Slack cannot see the context of the Agent that lives inside Cursor on my developer laptop. They might be clones with identical brains, but they can't talk to each other or compare notes.
bigfishrunning 3 hours ago||
So why can't the cursor instance on your laptop have a slack bot? I've had a slack bot on my build machine written in chicken-scheme of all things for years, I feel like the great people (or clankers?) at cursor ought to be able to figure this one out
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