Top
Best
New

Posted by speckx 4 hours ago

Apple has decided to compete for creativity app users(alex4d.com)
63 points | 49 commentspage 2
schainks 3 hours ago|
They released a bunch of apps for creatives last year. That was the signal, no?
dd8601fn 2 hours ago|
They bundled existing apps in a subscription.
madebysnacks 3 hours ago||
Apple should buy Sketch
cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago||
I'm on the fence on this idea. I think it depends on how well it's doing financially, basically to what extent has Figma eaten its lunch.

I never boarded the Figma train because I prefer the UI of Sketch, as well as its local-first approach and how its file format is publicly documented so I actually own my data. I do worry about it going under though, and if Apple buying it up is the only way for that to happen so be it.

If nothing else it'd keep it out of Adobe's hands which is worth a lot on its own.

mortenjorck 3 hours ago|||
Sketch lost the market to Figma, and now Figma is losing the market to vibe coding.

I'm not sure what the value proposition of Sketch is these days apart from local, non-cloud editing (although you can even get that with a pretty decent UI these days with Lunacy).

cosmic_cheese 3 hours ago|||
Vector screen-destined assets. Illustrator is print-centric and awkward for the use case, and while Photoshop is technically capable of it that's not what it's made for (also, Adobe CC is just way too bloated for its own good). Figma is oriented around mockups and not as good for assets.

There are also platforms which are less vibe-friendly, and old style mockups can still be useful when nailing down a design system across platforms.

ctippett 2 hours ago||
Surely you've got Photoshop (raster) and Illustrator (vector) mixed up?
cosmic_cheese 1 hour ago||
Nope. A lot of people use Photoshop for vector screen-destined graphics, because even though it's raster-dominant, it's reasonably capable of vector too. Illustrator is vector-dominant, but as noted, it's aimed mainly at print-destined vector graphics.
ctippett 1 hour ago||
I stand corrected then. It's been over a decade since I last used Photoshop, so my familiarity with its capabilities are obviously well out of date, I never would've considered it for any sort of vector-based work.
tombert 2 hours ago||||
Doesn't Apple already have a loose competitor to Figma? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeform_%28Apple%29
cosmic_cheese 2 hours ago||
Not really. Freeform is more of a whiteboarding/brainstorming app. It might be ok for rough wireframes but isn't suitable for high fidelity mockups, asset creation, etc.
LoganDark 3 hours ago|||
Sketch has always been the app I use for quick throwing-together of things. Figma seems designed for specifically corporate design documents which is icky.
rramon 2 hours ago|||
They bought "Play" recently, it was an UI design app dedicated to SwiftUI.
kwanbix 3 hours ago||
What the world needs. Less competition.
shevy-java 2 hours ago||
Folks - don't work for Evil. Any startup or smaller or even some medium-sized companies should be better work-places than the big greedy corporations. Granted, greed is an addiction and most people will fall to whoever pays most (that's understandable), but think of the ethics factor as well whenever the income is considered. Working for Evil comes with a karma penalty; Google taught us thus whenever an ad is infiltrating your computer.
thenthenthen 2 hours ago|
Evil comes in all sizes
Keyframe 2 hours ago||
That tells us nothing, nothingburger speculation. However, Apple had that major incident in its history when they made Adobe mad when they went out and shopped for final cut pro, color, and a handful of compositing apps. Didn't turn out well for Apple at the time.
dylan604 30 minutes ago|
Was that as mad as when Adobe didn't believe Apple when they said to switch to 64bit so they didn't because FCPStudio wasn't updated to 64bit only to have Apple release FCPX instead causing Adobe to miss an entire upgrade version on Mac? (you should read that run-on breathlessly as intended)
cryo32 3 hours ago||
Really not interested in this one. There is no data portability as none of the file formats they use for anything are documented and they are shovelling you into an eternal subscription model. At least Adobe file formats are well documented and have importers on pretty everything else so you can escape if you need to. I can open illustrator and photoshop files in a load of other apps, including open source. Pixelmator and their office stuff, nope.

I’ve been in this trap before and I’m only interested in portable, documented, non subscription stuff.

I’ve moved to Darktable, Inkscape and libreoffice here mostly for my needs. I don’t really need photoshop equivalent.

LoganDark 3 hours ago||
this has nothing to do with creativity app users, and everything to do with enshittification -- locking features that used to be free behind a monthly subscription, and ensuring new features are not offered to owners, but rather only available through renting. it has nothing to do with competition either
quaddoggy 2 hours ago|
[dead]