If it's true that in under 15 days of access significant improvements were realized in K3, then the moat of closed-weight models is far smaller than previously thought.
Doesn't bode well for the valuations of these labs.
seydor 6 hours ago||
Good pretext for bannign chinese APIs in the USA and their vassal states.
If distillation is so good, why aren't US companies distilling each other?
blks 6 hours ago||
Considering that LLM are created using stolen content or against licensing, it’s only fair to distill and open source them.
Chance-Device 9 hours ago||
Hmm. I wonder when this was detected. And was the CoT trace cut from Fable from the start on June 9th or just after the export ban and relaunch? Is this what the export ban was actually about? I honestly don’t know, just wondering aloud.
InsideOutSanta 6 hours ago||
We already know K3 is really good; you don't need to glaze it even more by telling us it's like Fable.
chasd00 8 hours ago||
if there are no consequences then who cares? You're not going to take Chinese companies to court and stealing IP is nothing new either. It's going to take some sort of policy change at the federal government level to do anything but they haven't done much up to this point. Maybe AI is important enough to actually get some kind of policy change, sucks for everyone else who have had their IP stolen with no consequences whatsoever.
gensym 8 hours ago|
I fear they are laying the groundwork to ban US citizens from using Chinese models, so that they can make sure that Brockman gets his money's worth.
chasd00 7 hours ago||
why would you fear that? At least it's something to fight unfair business practices. As for American AI companies violating copyright there's a venue for that, the courts. File a case if you feel your copyright has been violated and get your day in court.
asadotzler 7 hours ago||
A company that distills LLMs should be called "Moonshine" not "Moonshot"
Ba-dum-tss
bradrn 5 hours ago|
Hah, I had the same thought on seeing the title!
Catloafdev 10 hours ago||
I wonder how they detect this kind of thing. Seems like this is going to be a perpetual issue until it stops being worth doing.
Side note, didn't they stop releasing real thinking tokens for Fable? Or is it still part of some subs or API usage?
mrbonner 9 hours ago|
Hah tales as old as time. what’s next? Distillation of Disney theme park?