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Posted by surprisetalk 6 hours ago

Does creatine make you smarter?(dynomight.net)
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jgbuddy 3 hours ago|
I have definitely noticed improvements taking a larger dose with my energy when low on sleep, check out McMorris et al. (2006) which is not cited here. I agree it probably doesn't make you generally more 'smart' but it does may improve function under stress, e.g. when sleep deprived, also see Gordji-Nejad et al. (2024). I think the sleep benefits should at least be mentioned in this article.

Also search for 'sleep' in this comment section, seems many see similar improvements!

jermberj 4 hours ago||
> Wikipedia quotes a paper saying people make / recycle around 50 kilograms per day. That would imply that people make around 0.5787 grams per second. But this is in tension with the idea that people use 100 watts at rest. Since that 100 watt number seems to be more strongly established, I think 1 gram per second is a better estimate.

The cited paper in Wikipedia might be accurate and the author is just expecting "at rest" to mean awake but mostly idle. I'd wager that during sleep, we use less than 100W. For the sake of argument if you take out 8 hours (asleep time) from a 24 hour period, you end up with a rate of ~0.8681 grams per second, much closer to 1g/s. Anyway, just a little fun with numbers.

bassiee 5 hours ago||
In my experience, it wont make you smarter but my brain just feels more energized to think.
sspehr 5 hours ago||
> Available short and long-term studies in healthy and diseased populations, from > infants to the elderly, at dosages ranging from 0.3 to 0.8 g/kg/day for up to 5 > years have consistently shown that creatine supplementation poses no adverse > health risks and may provide a number of health and performance benefits.

They missed a zero behind the comma, didn't they?

jefozabuss 5 hours ago|
Likely. I did one time a creatine loading week of 30gr a day at 100kg body weight and I had to drink 7L of water to not feel like I have a hangover.
aeonik 5 hours ago||
Studies I read seems to show a marginal boost in cognitionl and memory, but only if you were otherwise overtaxed for some reason.

Like being tired, stressed, etc...

slipnslider 5 hours ago|
Yep. From what I read mental fatigue (mental math problems is what the study used) or sleep deprivation are two scenarios in which creatine boosted cognition and memory.

Here are the sleep deprivation studies

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54249-9

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16416332/

zemvpferreira 4 hours ago||
Personally I have noticed a lot less cognitive impairment after a poor night’s sleep since starting on 10g per day. It seems to make a noticeable difference in my ability to reason and to act having slept less than 7 hours per night, even on consecutive nights.
odinthedog 3 hours ago||
Dang, missed opportunity to explain the actin-myosine sliding filament theory.
blueSky1989 4 hours ago||
> Maybe for some reason, Rae et al.’s cohort had lower baseline creatine levels?

Well, yes. It is well known that you must eat fish, beef, i.e., animal protein, to get close to optimal levels of creatine.

softbuilder 5 hours ago|
I started taking 5g for cognition. Never any clear signal for that, but it does seem to help a bit with my (more than occasional) sleep deprivation. Mostly with fighting off headaches.
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