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Posted by surprisetalk 9 hours ago

Does creatine make you smarter?(dynomight.net)
259 points | 220 commentspage 5
nonameiguess 8 hours ago|
The conclusions aren't any different (it's one of the few thing that helps strength, poses no danger to your hair, and almost certainly does nothing for cognition), but the articles at https://www.strongerbyscience.com/?s=creatine are far more comprehensive, including the famous extremely long podcast episodes they used to do.

The one thing this misses is many supplements are tainted, which skews the popular perception of both upsides and risks. This was especially true in the US prior to 2005 or so when prohormones were still legal over the counter. Anything branded that wasn't just pure creatine was extremely likely to actually be a low-dose oral steroid, which really can make you lose hair and will increase strength quite a bit more than any dietary supplement.

This also misses caffeine as the other a-tier supplement that consistently shows strength increases in RCTs, though of course, caffeine is more frought than creatine because you build tolerance and it can disturb sleep.

switchbak 8 hours ago||
"poses no danger to your hair" I keep hearing folks say this, and even in this thread there's someone who's experienced that and had it stop when they eliminated creatine. I too have experienced exactly that with exactly the stopping of issues once I stopped taking creatine.

Perhaps you can say "danger to your hair is rare", but there's very clearly (to me at least) an effect there, and the way it gets hand-waved away is strange to me.

grvdrm 1 hour ago||
Do you do anything else for hair? Like Minoxidil, Finasteride, or other serums/etc.

Just curious for other folks experiences as they are on or off creatine in parallel with other hair interventions.

matwood 8 hours ago|||
> This also misses caffeine as the other a-tier supplement

In college Ripped Fuel wasn't banned yet. We would take two, go to the gym for 2 hours, shower, then go out until the sun came up the next day. It's no surprise it was eventually banned. I think some people ended up dying by taking too many.

volkl48 7 hours ago||
> poses no danger to your hair,

Last I checked, the only study actually focusing on this is n=38, out of Iran, and has heavy conflict of interest issues (funded by the supplement industry).

That's not remotely sufficient to consider this a settled fact.

BizarroLand 6 hours ago||
I feel like you would need to find some correlation between dosing creatine and increased DHT production to find a link between the two.

Creatine is not an anabolic steroid and does not increase testosterone levels, according to Harvard Health, so while there was 1 suspicious study that claimed that creatine increased DHT, that study has afterwards not been able to be replicated, and since creatine does not manipulate hormones but rather energy instead, it seems to as closes a possible to being a settled fact sans the final nail in the coffin.

deton3991 8 hours ago||
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onesandofgrain 3 hours ago||
scam through and through for omnivores
thisisauserid 9 hours ago||
Article's answer to its own question:

It safely builds muscle and boosts cognition.

dd8601fn 9 hours ago|
No, it does not.

More like "probably", "yes", and "probably not."

dvduval 9 hours ago||
I don’t think they’re strong evidence that it does anything beyond helping you build muscle. There are some people say they think clearer, but I don’t think that’s been measured in any significant way.
mikodin 8 hours ago|
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petra 9 hours ago|
Given LLM's is being smarter still a worthwhile to optimize with supplements?
isakmarr 8 hours ago||
Of course it is. LLMs aren't as smart as you think, or at least their "intelligence" isn't comparable to ours. They're just a useful tool, and they will always need someone to guide them.
toast0 8 hours ago|||
Yeah, mix some creatine in with the thermal paste. It should help!
fragmede 9 hours ago|||
that was hard to parse, but yes, because then you can ask smarter questions to the LLM which saves you money, so you can afford supplements
binary132 8 hours ago||
Productivity isn’t the only reason to be smarter. For example, there’s also the benefit of asking fewer inane questions on the internet (hypothetically)
shermantanktop 8 hours ago|||
Present company excluded, of course.
binary132 6 hours ago||
I still seek the fount of infinite wisdom.
petra 8 hours ago|||
LoL.maybe the question is not phrased in the best way, English as a second language and laziness, but it's a pretty decent question.