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Posted by agotterer 7 hours ago

London Gatwick has launched a robotic airport parking service(aerospaceglobalnews.com)
251 points | 207 comments
pontus 6 hours ago|
So I'll have to park my car in a garage first, then take a bus to the terminal just so that a robot can move my car from the place where I parked it to a different place? I was hoping it'd be something where I'd pull up to the curb, grab my bags and head in while the robot parked the car for me but apparently I'll still have to take a bus to the terminal?
simonklee 5 hours ago||
Exactly, i think this product is solving an airport problem and not a user problem. Whenever i park at an airport i always look for the shortest distance to terminal / price, then chose an option that lands within an acceptable range. Unless i'm way for very long shuttle-bus isn't really on the table.
telesilla 3 hours ago|||
Sometimes airport parking is insanely expensive (cough Schipol), so I'll park further away anyway or park somewhere I can get the train. If this helped lower costs I'd be fine with this but probably they'd keep the high price anyway.
nextos 2 hours ago|||
Gatwick long-term parking is not expensive if you book in advance. You need to take a slow bus shuttle to the terminal, but it's never more than 15-20 min including waiting time. I've used it a zillion times as I'd rather not give my keys to those meet & greet companies who drive your car 5 miles. It might void insurance and waiting times when you return tend to be over an hour.
blitzar 1 hour ago||
I'd rather not give my keys to those meet & greet companies who thrash your car for you while you are on holiday.

https://news.sky.com/story/i-paid-numerous-fines-after-leavi...

nextos 35 minutes ago||
Yeah, I heard some horror stories a few years back. Trustpilot and Google reviews had some interesting cases.
myegorov 3 hours ago|||
Fun fact: you can get to/from Schiphol by bike.
usrnm 1 hour ago|||
Some time ago I would've considered that a joke, but this year NS has been about as reliable as DB, so I might actually consider that option
Etheryte 2 hours ago||||
I mean, you can get to and from practically any airport by bike if you're determined enough.
eptcyka 1 hour ago|||
World of difference between using cycling infrastructure and sharing roads with 2 ton beasts powered by paleo compost.
skrebbel 1 hour ago||||
Sure but to Schiphol (and any other airport in NL obviously) there's a proper bicycle lane.
holoduke 1 hour ago|||
There are bicycle lanes everywhere in Holland. I don't know a single person that bikes to the airport. From Amsterdam its at least 30 minutes by bike from the city center. Actually have no idea where I would park the bike. It's not common and not practical at this point.
juleiie 3 hours ago||||
Unless the bike has electric engine and cargo compartment it’s not super viable id say to move all that luggage
aequitas 2 hours ago|||
Maybe that’s why the “elektrische bakfiets” (electrified cargo bike) is really popular here in the Netherlands. I’ve got one and don’t even live anywhere near an airport, closest one is at least an hour by car.
juleiie 2 hours ago||
What about a sudden rainstorm on a bike? Or a heatwave without AC?

The way I see it sure you can go everywhere using a less than ideal transport option and manage if you must. But.. why?

yurishimo 1 hour ago|||
The Dutch have a saying, “Je bent niet van suiker” which means “You’re not made of sugar.”

Rain here is a fact of life, similar to the UK or Vancouver, Orlando or the Amazon Rainforest. Everyone who uses a bike for transportation here has a good rain jacket. And to put things in perspective, the normal rain seen in the Netherlands is more of a light drizzle and it generally comes in fits and spurts as moist air is pushed inland from the ocean. If you can afford to wait an hour, the rain is probably stopped.

Also, getting to the airport with a bike in the Netherlands is fine! There are nice protected bicycle lanes, a nice parking garage, good connections to neighboring infrastructure and you can always bring your bike down to the train platform if you need to go a bit further. When you live in a country that prioritizes cycling infrastructure, taking a bike is the practical, cheapest, and often fastest way to reach your destination.

Now to end on a point of more agreement, I agree with you that the demonization of AC in much of Europe is silly. Nobody is upset that in Bangkok or Tokyo that every building has AC. For some reason a certain type of European just doesn’t want to adapt and they will fight tooth and nail to prevent others from utilizing their own economic means in order to stay comfortable in their own homes. My home has solar panels and during the summer they produce much more power than I can utilize at one given moment anyway so if I want to run my AC at 400W during the peak heatwave that should be of no concern to anyone.

Grombobulous 1 hour ago||||
You’re right, it’s not ideal. That’s why people in the Netherlands invented a special technology to compensate, which they call “clothes.”

Clothes are not really an ideal solution compared to surrounding yourself with a 4,000 pound piece of machinery that costs $50,000, loses half its value in 3 years, and degrades your mental and physical health.

juleiie 1 hour ago||
Honestly avoiding people on the street improves my mental and physical health by reducing chronic cortisol. These fuckers stare at you and worse. A day of this and i am an anxious wreck.

It’s better to just get in your tanklet. Your little oasis. Home away from home.

That’s how i move nowadays from most point As to Bs. Music, AC, glasses. Perfect privacy. Calmness. Peace.

Kilograms of metal between you and the vicious, antagonistic reality of 2026 AD

It’s not just a car. It is an armor for the times like these.

Aaargh20318 1 hour ago|||
Like any Dutch mom would say to their kids complaining about cycling in bad weather: you’re not made of sugar are you? (Meaning: you won’t melt due to a bit of rain, quit being a pussy).
skrebbel 1 hour ago||||
I've biked to the airport lots of times. It depends on where you're going of but for short-ish trips a backpack is often though. And I did also once bring a suitcase on a (non electric) cargo bike. Worked fine.
masklinn 2 hours ago|||
Depends how much luggage exactly, but bakfiets and cargo trailers can be pretty roomy. Ebike is always helpful.

And that's before you get into tricycles.

gib444 1 hour ago|||
Great way to save some CO2! It really pays to be conscious about that.
amelius 5 hours ago||||
It's still an impressive engineering feat, and (probably, given recent AI advances) an incredible time to market. I wonder when they started working on this, how big their company is, how much training data they put into it, etc.

What is the name of the company that built this?

wildzzz 4 hours ago|||
It's probably got some AI but not the GPU gobbling kind. This is old school robotics using control loops and old AI algorithms. Sensors decide if you've parked correctly in the garage. Robot is dispatched via a queue once you've closed the door. Cameras and sensors guide the dolly into place. Robot follows predetermined route to the parking spot and uses sensors to detect obstructions (people, debris, other robots parking cars). Maybe there's lidar on board. Cameras and encoders guide the car perfectly into the designated spot. Robot whisks off to go charge or grab another car from the queue. It's effectively the same level of intelligence as a Roomba with the mechanics of an electric forklift. It's still cool but the fundamentals were developed 40+ years ago, we've just managed to shrink a lot of the tech down in size and power since then.
semiquaver 5 hours ago||||

  > (probably, given recent AI advances) an incredible time to market
There’s nothing whatsoever to indicate that this has anything at all to do with LLMs.
SoftTalker 5 hours ago||||
I parked in a robotic parking garage in Denmark ten years ago. This isn't really new tech, though the implementation sounds a bit different.
jakzurr 4 hours ago|||
Great, I've been day-dreaming about this for decades, and when it finally happens, I don't notice it. ;p
bwblabs 3 hours ago|||
2015-06-10 indeed: https://youtu.be/H4jYDfOzrjY
Nition 1 hour ago||
Ah, that answers something I was wondering about that the article didn't answer, which is how you can lift a car by its tyres without starting already under the tyre and without friction or forcing them to rotate.

Looks like the answer is (at least for this older system), come in from both sides of the tyre with two separate arms, and have each of those arms have their own little wheels on, so as you move inwards it lifts up the tyre and just rolls your mini wheels a little bit. Clever.

bwblabs 1 hour ago||
This is the video of the 11+ year old system installed in Århus Denmark by Lödige Industries from Germany. Lödige Industries more recent solution is actually moving the whole pallet you park on, so you can also plug your car into it: https://youtu.be/-_ZxnDrfwGk?t=46

The system in London Gatwick UK is done by Stanley Robotics from France (which was acquired by HL Robotics from South Korea in 2024), but it could be similar.

Nition 42 minutes ago||
Sorry yeah, I understood that they're not the same company or system, but I couldn't think of any way it could be done (aside from, as you say, parking already on it) so it was nice to see at least one solution.
domh 5 hours ago||||
It says Stanley Robotics in the article: https://www.stanley-robotics.com/

Edit: seems like they got bought out in 2024 by HL Robotics: https://en.hlrobotics.co.kr/

mschuster91 5 hours ago|||
> how much training data they put into it

This kind of stuff has been the norm literally for decades in any major harbor. No AI BS needed.

kkrkgbbsvjdlzn 3 hours ago||
We had AI in the 80/90s, we even had an AI hype in the 80/90s.
shermantanktop 2 hours ago||
The things we called AI back then would not get that label today. Maybe “decision tree” or “expert system”? Or simply “algorithm”?
w4der 1 hour ago||
And I bet even current LLMs will get relabeled as not-AI once the next best thing comes around in a decade or less.
wat10000 5 hours ago||||
Isn't this just automated valet parking? Valet parking allows more efficient use of space, which makes it cheaper in places where space is at a premium. Automating it would change that tradeoff in a way that benefits the customer.
bravoetch 4 hours ago||
It's missing the value-add of valet parking - being able to pull up at the front door and walk away from your car. Without that, this is not valet anything. You still park then shuttle to the airport so there's zero benefit to the end user.
myself248 3 hours ago|||
On the other hand, it leaves the car locked the whole time, no valet having your keys, no valet adjusting your seats, etc. Some of us avoid valet for some of these reasons.

If this thing could pick up my car from curbside at arrivals dropoff like a valet, but handle it robotically so there's no valet downside, it would be amazing.

grogenaut 3 hours ago||
on the other other hand it randomly pressure points the bottom of your car on points that weren't really meant for it.

agree that this would be way better if you just drove up in a queue and cars were taken away. one imagines the slow moving conveyors at amusement parks to get people closer to the ride's speed, tho given how long people take to park, get, take off the seat belt, find park, shut off the car, check their faces in the mirror, Find their cell, button their jacket, straighten up other stuff, find the rest of their shit, get out of the car, kiss their loved ones for 10 straight minutes, struggle with the tailgate, get their bats out, realize they forgot their phone, and finally head away from their car... probbably wouldn't work.

I see people take 5 minutes to get their car moving or get out at a grocery store. what they're doing I'll never guess. Car isn't even started for 3 minutes. When I first learned to drive my dad's hard and fast rule was to get the A/C running before anything else (other than insuring the car wouldn't move), the windows could be lowered with your other hand as a secondary.

clort 2 hours ago||
it picks it up by the tyres, so no random pressure points
wat10000 4 hours ago|||
In some places, it's no more convenient, and the value-add is just that you can pack cars in tighter. In Manhattan, for example, it's common for valet parking to be cheaper and less convenient.
varispeed 4 hours ago|||
I look for most spacious parking place with wide approach lanes, then shortest distance. Some car parks at the airports are just ridiculous. So narrow you can't exit the car.
kkrkgbbsvjdlzn 3 hours ago||
I you have an extreme size SUV, yes, it should be hard to park. It’s by design.
varispeed 1 hour ago|||
I don't have a SUV. But why it should be hard? Do you hate people?
close04 2 hours ago|||
I have a small car (regular hatchback) and a lot of the parking spots in the very large airport in my city are just marginally wider than my car. If you can’t get the spot at the end of the row, the only way to park in some of the buildings is to offload all your passengers, hope you find a spot where you can park “right door to right door” next to someone else so you can leave just enough room on the left side to squeeze out.

The parking buildings were built when cars were smaller than small cars today, and as the passenger count increased, so did the need for more spots, in a 0 sum game. They just split the cake in smaller slices.

clickety_clack 4 hours ago|||
Implementation is everything. If there’s enough capacity to drive up and drop your car off without queueing, and your car is ready to go as you leave the terminal then it sounds great. If there’s a half hour wait to get into the drop off zone, and another half hour wait after picking up your bags, and a half hour walk to the pickup/dropoff area then I’d prefer a 30 min shuttle.
ohyayno 4 hours ago||
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birdsongs 4 hours ago||
Do you have any proof of this? The moderators are very transparent here. I'd be absolutely shocked if that's true.
iamben 3 hours ago|||
I think this is solving the 'airport parking' problem my dad has. He drives to the airport, parks a mile or so away in some field and the company that owns the field drops him off at the terminal. He can leave his car there for the week.

This feels like a clever solution to have some spaces closer to the airport and many spaces further away.

scoot 1 hour ago||
That isn't how this works. It doesn't transport your car to a more distant car park - it simply "parks" your car in an available space.
dom96 1 hour ago|||
Meanwhile their toilets are all completely down because of water supply failures[1]. A sad and funny juxtaposition.

1 - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/26/water-supply...

have_faith 5 hours ago|||
Article says one of the terminals is within walking distance
IshKebab 4 hours ago||
Anything is within walking distance if you're willing to walk...

Anyway here's where it is:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/YZKPXp7LSjc5jPot5

Turn on satellite view and you can see it is on the edge of the long stay parking. I dunno if you're realistically going to save a lot of time unless your parking space is right at the back of the long stay car park. Worth it if it's free! I assume it's overpriced though.

kkotak 4 hours ago||
From the map. It looks like the train is closer to the terminal :)
IshKebab 2 hours ago|||
Yes if you can get a train into a UK airport that's definitely the way, but even in the train-friendly UK that's often not feasible. For example Bristol airport has no railway. Heathrow is very inaccessible by train from the west. So there are unfortunately still plenty of reasons to drive to UK airports.
kkrkgbbsvjdlzn 3 hours ago|||
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atmosx 2 hours ago|||
Well that’s the design / usability / real needs part. Which is what these projects often miss. I see often tech replacing parts of a workflow but in reality the process / flow remains the same. Now some parts are digital and we call this “progress”. Strictly speaking it’s digitization but not progress.
Reason077 3 hours ago|||
Yes, it doesn't make a lot of sense if you can't pull up close to the terminal and leave your car there for the robot to park. But I assume this is just a prototype/trial of the robot tech with a view to expanding it in the future. Presumably they didn't want the risk of broken down (or stuck/confused) parking robots clogging up the busy airport drop off area.
ghm2199 3 hours ago|||
Not a problem for me, :) I always take a shuttle or an Uber to the airport from where I parked, which is 10-15 mins away, because parking at the airport(JFK, LaGuardia, Newark at least) is stupid expensive

The article says:

> The facility is within walking distance of the South Terminal, although a free shuttle bus is also available.

mattlutze 4 hours ago|||
Think of it as picking the parking garage or lot you like, but skipping the hunt for an open spot.

As these things go, if the service provider is able to make step one work and the airport continues the partnership, an eventual step would indeed be coming closer to or at the terminal, and the robot scooters (sounds a little like scaled-up warehouse robots) would move the car to storage.

sarjann 1 hour ago|||
I guess the argument might be that it'll be faster than finding a spot. Slightly minor benefit is you don't need to remember where it's parked.
the__alchemist 4 hours ago|||
I will give you a reason why this might be useful. Not at Gatwick. (I always took the train when I lived in that area and usually ended up at Heathrow or Stanstead anyway). But at Raleigh NC for example, you have to go up 5 levels to find a spot, (I have never seen an open spot on levels 1-4) and spend about 10 minutes or more finding a spot after that, then walking from your spot to the elevator, then back out. Or sometimes the lot is filled up, and you have to drive to a lot far away, then spend even longer finding a spot that will be at the far end of the lot, then walking a good distance to the bus terminal.

That's if you know the system, and are aware that you won't find spots on the lower levels, and that the "x spots open" indicators are lying. If you're new, you can spend 30+ minutes on a goose chase, miss your flight etc.

This solves that problem; not the bus one. (If the drop-off location is easy to access; if not, then it's pointless)

Reason077 3 hours ago||
> "you won't find spots on the lower levels, ... the "x spots open" indicators are lying"

A simpler and cheaper solution would be to fix those availability signs. Surely this is not a problem that a few cameras and some smart software couldn't solve.

iamtheworstdev 1 hour ago||
Atlanta/Hartsfield just opened a new parking deck with those cameras and I bet some fancy as f### AI powered system. 7 level deck, I tried 4 of them before I realized the green/red lights were just randomly switching back in forth, so the total on each floor never reached zero. Fortunately, the top deck was free.

When I got back I walked past the kiosk that said "type in your license plate and locate your car" for those who forgot where they parked, like I did. Typed it in - no car found. (this was a recent trip, out on 07/23 and back on 07/25)

INTPenis 2 hours ago|||
It's basically a larger version of P-Snurran they made in Stockholm back in 2023. It was like a CD changer for cars.
globular-toast 2 hours ago|||
It's more like valet parking except you lock your car and keep your keys. I guess enough people don't trust someone else driving their car.
mcfedr 3 hours ago||
especially disappointing as there is valet parking at Gatwick that works exactly like that
jalada 3 hours ago||
Simultaneously - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/26/water-supply...
kylehotchkiss 3 hours ago|
It’s exciting to invest in the future and not exciting to invest in infrastructure
joe463369 3 hours ago||
Neither VINCI Airports nor Stanley Robotics are responsible for the water infrastructure in South East England.
longsangstan 4 hours ago||
I am quite surprised by the amount of negative comments here. My immediate reaction after watching the video is that this is pretty cool and I want to try it, even though I expect issues given that it is the first service of this kind in London.
Tade0 3 hours ago|
Personally I wonder why didn't they put several Pater Noster parking machines instead.

Systems with eight slots have decent throughout, the same density as cars parked side-by-side and bumper-to-bumper - even including the space needed to roll out - and are mechanically simple compared to just about anything else in this space.

ajay-b 5 hours ago||
"Unlike traditional valet parking, passengers retain possession of their keys throughout their trip."

"If passengers accidentally leave an essential item in the vehicle after drop-off, on-site staff will be available to retrieve emergency items."

But.. how would they get that emergency item if they don't have the keys?

beejiu 4 hours ago||
You give them the keys, then they go to the site to collect your item.
bravoetch 4 hours ago||
They can turn your alarm off while they're fetching your pills.
mbreese 4 hours ago|||
I can remote lock/unlock my car from an app, so I’m guessing this is what they are thinking about.
cortesoft 5 hours ago||
First thing I thought, too. Seems like mutually exclusive features.
PaulRobinson 6 hours ago||
As a general rule, you should take the train to Gatwick if you can, but this is reasonably priced and next time I'm flying from Gatwick I'll probably drive and do this - the train route for me is a bit fiddly, and the worst bit of any London airport for a local is long-stay parking. I'm much closer to Heathrow but the flights from LGW are so much cheaper, it more than covers two weeks of parking at this price.
djhworld 6 hours ago||
I always wonder with solutions like these how stuff like alarm systems on the car cope with the car being lifted, the vibrations encountered as its being towed.

Unless they tell you to switch the alarm system off I guess.

0x3f 5 hours ago||
I don't think car alarms detect these kinds of vibrations. It's specifically tilt and more impactful stuff. Certainly, the alarm is never going off when I get my car back via the lifts that I've used. It's probably too smooth.
walrus01 5 hours ago|||
Car alarms go off all the time on ferries from cars that really don't like being locked and moved.
0x3f 4 hours ago|||
Ferries tilt and jolt in a way that predictable-path car lifts don't.
kvirani 4 hours ago|||
Yes I see this all the time on BC ferries. Usually an Audi or similar
papercrane 5 hours ago|||
The problem will be aftermarket car alarms. There used to be a car that parked on the street near my apartment that would go off ever time a bus went by it.
eliseumds 4 hours ago|||
Some OEM systems are sensitive too. My mother has a Hyundai that triggers the alarm whenever a heavy truck drives by.
egeozcan 3 hours ago|||
There's even a somewhat famous song about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z-8vy6sPQQ
saghm 2 hours ago||
I asked this once in the past, but...do car alarms actually stop any actual crime ever? My entire life, every time I've ever heard a car alarm go off, literally everyone around just rolls their eyes and ignores it. If I actually looked up at a car alarm and the person outside the car just said "I'm so sorry! You know how it is", I would probably just nod and move on without really taking the time to figure out if it was really their car (because even if they were breaking in I don't have any desire to risk an altercation with someone doing that, and even if I were inclined to call law enforcement, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't come do anything because some random car's alarm is going off).

I want to be open minded that I'm missing something, but I can't help but feel like car alarms are just security theater with a side of nose pollution.

nialv7 11 minutes ago||
meanwhile, in japan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYdl7IFZsM
walthamstow 6 hours ago||
It's quite reasonably priced too (for airport parking), about £80 a week booking for September today. I paid that for short stay parking at Stansted earlier this summer.
tehwebguy 6 hours ago||
Wow, who is subsidizing it?
throw2ih020 5 hours ago||
London Gatwick is outside of London, so I assume land costs are low enough that a multi-story car park isn't too expensive.
0x3f 5 hours ago|||
Most 'London' airports are outside of London and they still charge a ton for parking. Captive audience. This one is unusually cheap, even for Gatwick.
7952 5 hours ago||||
Most of the long term parking is surface rather than multi storey.
hiitsmyaccount 3 hours ago|||
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sixQuarks 6 hours ago||
That is pretty good pricing. I’m surprised. I wonder if this is just introductory pricing. It seems like there’s not much throughput for something like this. I can’t see how this could handle a constant stream of people wanting to park their cars.
michaelt 4 hours ago||
> It seems like there’s not much throughput for something like this. I can’t see how this could handle a constant stream of people wanting to park their cars.

Assume your car park is a grid of cars, 20 cars wide and 20 cars long, i.e. 400 parking spaces.

You make the entire first row drop-off/pick up points. With 20 pick up/drop off points you can have a lot of people dropping off or picking up at the same time. And you know pretty well when people will be picking up their cars, as you know their flight arrival details.

Assume your average airport parking customer parks for 5 days, that's 80 arrivals and 80 departures per day. Each of your 20 pick-up/drop-off points only needs to handle 4 pick-ups and 4 drop-offs per day. To me that sounds feasible.

sixQuarks 4 hours ago||
Yeah, in theory, but this assumes a linear demand curve, whereas there may be periods where lots of people come to park at the same time.

Most airport parking lots have thousands of spots so you’d need a lot

ashayh 1 hour ago||
Meanwhile, Gatwick currently doesn't have running toilets: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdew2dnxlzzo

How about we fix basic issue as a species first, before going all robots and AI and trips to Mars?

amiga386 2 hours ago|
Will it meet the same fate as the gimmicky Autosafe SkyPark that opened in 2001 and went bankrupt in 2003, and still had cars in it when the building was demolished nearly 20 years later?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-4...

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