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Posted by speckx 6 days ago

How Hollywood stopped making movies in Hollywood(www.statsignificant.com)
140 points | 159 commentspage 3
fsuts 5 hours ago|
I saw a Trump clip not long after his inauguration where he said he was unhappy about Hollywood moving overseas due to tax cuts but so far nothing.

Like with manufacturing in China, allowing your competitor countries to build up expertise means at some point it become difficult to regain top place. And whilst bulk of the profits may flow back to the USA at present, may not always be the case.

It’s not like it’s been hidden, all USA needs to do is reduce the gap so financially there is no incentive to go abroad.

Great for other countries though.

rfwhyte 3 hours ago||
Something interesting to note, is that while "Hollywood" is fast losing its status as the nexus of the traditional film / tv industries, LA in the broader sense is already very well established as the global (Well at least "Western") hub of the content creator economy. Literally thousands of wannabe / up and coming YouTubers, Tik Tokers and "Influencers" of all sorts are packing up their lives and moving to LA every year in order to be closer to each other, and to the talent pool of cast-off film and tv folks that live in LA.

The "Cost disease" seemingly hasn't yet infected that industry at least (Or the infection is still in its early incubating stage) though I think that's in large part due to the fact most of the content creators aren't working within the established industry framework, but rather are intentionally trying to work outside of it, in order to avoid paying union rates.

asdff 3 hours ago|
$10k rent on a hollywood hills mansion isn't so bad when you have it sleeping 10-15 20 year olds.
m463 7 hours ago||
Lots of things like this have happened.

Silicon Valley stopped making computers, or any kind of manufacturing. Who knows, maybe some black projects exist.

But I was told that some underground utilities in the area were non-standard, not just water, power, sewer, but also nitrogen or more.

shevy-java 6 hours ago||
To be fair: the quality of movies produced by Hollywood has gone rapidly downhill already in the 1990s. You only need to compare the movies Quentin Tarantino makes; now personally I think Pulp Fiction is still by far his best work, but I concede that the movies he created lateron were above average (though I would not go as far as many others, who'd rate these in the 8 to 10 point ranges; I'd go more between 6 to 7 or 7.5, largely because there are a few smaller issues cropping up and I always notice these when I compare them with Pulp Fiction, which was really good; actually really well-made).

I noticed this in the 1990s in many movies. For instance, Independence Day - the computer animation pissed me off. I found them bad. Even Terminator 2, where evidently many people say it was great, I was nowhere near as convinced; I found the first terminator better and more "logical" and more consistent, too. But things decayed quickly in the 1990s really. Even movies such as Avatar I find total garbage. And while I am not totally against superhero comic/marvel adaptations (I liked xmen and in particular Hugh Jackman as wolverine), these are always the same formula. Tons of CGI, big fights where nobody knows what is going on, very little thought elsewhere in that formula. There are exceptions, but by and large these things keep on happening. Individual directors manage to break out of the mold (Chris Nolan) but by and large movies really SUCK now compared to the "oldschool days". And while some of this may be due to me becoming more critical, the production quality just sunk. Take movies such as Megalopolis - this captures what is going wrong. It seems as if the whole movie industry has partially collapsed in the last +25 years and they don't really know what to do to change this. The same has happened to games, by the way. It is almost as if only one formula exists only now.

fluoridation 2 hours ago|
Investment-driven development. When it's no longer about creating something compelling, but about convincing the investors that banking the production means a fairly safe ROI, you stop getting creative works by auteurs and you start getting sequels, remakes, and low-stake, inoffensive, mediocre, forgettable, bland sludge. At the upper end, investors give directors checklists and guidelines to limit their authorial voice. That's why it doesn't matter who the directors of the MCU movies have been. They're just Disney-produced movies. A film student could have directed them and it wouldn't make a difference.
fhub 1 hour ago||
I think discovery via streaming services also contributes to bland sludge. Decisions are made based on a name, category, maybe an actor and a single "cover" art image.
aprilthird2021 8 hours ago||
I wonder if this will change as Hollywood is eyeing three $1B+ box office earners back to back to back this summer
laidoffamazon 8 hours ago||
But weren't they all made outside of Hollywood? Emeryville, around Europe and the UK, and then the UK for Toy Story 5, Odyssey, and Spiderman respectively?
asdff 7 hours ago||
A decent amount of odyssey was actually filmed on the universal backlot
gedy 7 hours ago||
Which is cool, but also likely an outlier due to Christopher Nolan's usage of practical effects vs CGI. His clout probably helped with the funding of that tbh.
asdff 7 hours ago||
They are still building new soundstages as we speak.
epolanski 8 hours ago||
Unlikely.

Money is money, and if you can film in UK where you get tax incentives and lower costs there's no reason to film in Hollywood.

benzadeus 3 hours ago||
What about the woke movement and movies turning into politics?
mmaunder 6 hours ago||
Because of financial incentives. And it makes critics sad when films aren’t shot where their story is based. Saved you reading it.
fryanyway_swe 6 hours ago||
I mean, kind of good maybe?

As someone not in the USA who loves movies, it is too easy to get sick of LA and desert locations everywhere.

OJFord 6 hours ago|
A lot of non-LA/desert scenes are LA sets.
digitalsurgeonz 7 hours ago|
Hollywood makes slop now, the last movie I saw was some iteration of Mission Impossible where the genius agent defeats the all powerful AI and that just felt like lack of imagination.
esafak 1 hour ago|
You picked such a commercial movie to make your case. Why not Bugonia, The Odyssey, One Battle After Another, Project Hail Mary, Frankenstein, etc. (all recent)