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Posted by speckx 6 hours ago

Read this before you buy that TV streaming stick(krebsonsecurity.com)
399 points | 229 commentspage 4
Mistletoe 5 hours ago|
I recently got an Apple TV 4K and have been really enjoying the ad free experience. Worth every penny. Our smart tv had turned into a Christmas tree of ads.
wewtyflakes 3 hours ago||
There are plenty of ads on Apple TV; huge banners right at the top of the UI, and ads that launch before you get to see the content of a show with no way to automatically disable them (you have to manually click through or just wait it out). It is infuriating (to me).
ls612 2 hours ago||
Apple TV the app has ads for Apple TV shows. Apple TV the device doesn’t have ads built in.
ocd 4 hours ago||
As much as I hate Apple for what they've done to the average consumer in regards to computing, it would be just impossible and dishonest to say anything other than Apple is the outright winner in streaming devices. The experience is so smooth.
trouve_search 2 hours ago|||
The nvidia shield is pretty damn good as well, even if old at this point.
ghostly_s 4 hours ago|||
Considering their recent decision to give up on building Apple Maps into a serious contender and instead enshittify it with ads, I don't have much faith Apple TV will be far behind.
dhosek 3 hours ago||
One hopes that the new CEO will realize the turn towards ads is ruining the Apple brand and pull back on that front.
cryo32 5 hours ago||
A better solution is just leech the content and stick it on a generic USB flash stick.
harvey9 3 hours ago|
These are popular for illegal live sports streams.
cryo32 54 minutes ago||
I just go down the pub.
phendrenad2 2 hours ago||
On the other hand, these are great little devices to root and put Linux on.
gxs 4 hours ago||
No mention of Roku

I use one but only when traveling at hotels - it’s one of the only sticks that can connect to captive WiFi networks at hotels

I’ve got barely anything on it so privacy be damned - but at this point this is why I just buy apple products

I have two apple tv’s which probably do shady things too, but I’m willing to play the probabilities and assume it’s the least bad of my options short of tinkering with flashing hardware and all that stuff that used to be fun in my teens (emphasis on used to)

giraffe_lady 5 hours ago||
> allowing low-skilled operators to drag blocks of code together in their editor — without any need to understand what the underlying code blocks do or how they work.

We're called engineers brian.

cute_boi 3 hours ago||
The best solution to this problem is to block GeoIP traffic and monitor bandwidth consumption on a per-domain basis. If something is sending data during the night, it becomes much easier to identify suspicious activity.
j45 5 hours ago||
Generally, it's advisable to create a dedicated wifi network for all potentially hostile devices.

This dedicated wifi network can just be connecting your devices to your guest wifi while you figure it out, and limiting the rate of speed as needed.

That can be cameras, tv's, thermostats, tv sticks and anything else that might not only call home, but actively scope what you have in your home network when it's none of it's business.

drnick1 3 hours ago||
> That can be cameras, tv's, thermostats, tv sticks and anything else that might not only call home

That is not enough. You need to air gap devices that have legitimately no business communicating with anyone or anything outside the house. TVs, thermostats, and other Internet-of-Crap gadgets do not need "firmware updates." Either they work out of the box, offline or within the LAN, or they get sent back for a refund wherever they came from.

spelk 3 hours ago||
I don't think this would make a big difference for the threat model described in the OP? They'd still be able to use your IP Address and potentially do nefarious things through your role as an unwitting proxy.
j45 3 hours ago||
Using one device as a proxy is a few steps away from trying to exploit and infiltrate the other devices on your machine as well. An unwitting proxy is already crossing the line to putting a fox in the henhouse.

Limiting what outbound access devices can/can't have is an important skill to learn.

buellerbueller 2 hours ago||
To those who are OK with these devices: when you engage in corruption, do you have any moral standing against your politicians when they engage in corruption?

Both you, and the corrupt politicians, are eating away at the trust that underpins society. Certainly, you can argue, your bite is just a tiny one; the politician is eating the whole apple.

At the end of the day, everyone suffers from the decline of trust and casual acceptance of fraud.

Pxtl 3 hours ago||
> major e-commerce providers like Amazon, Best Buy, Newegg and others continue to sell hundreds of different models and brands that bundle unofficial versions of Google’s Android operating system and are frequently marketed (via online influencers) as a way to access a broad array of streaming services and live broadcasts without a subscription.

This is why I giggle when people talk about ending Section 230 in the USA (or various international counterparts thereof).

The largest companies on Earth are happily selling hacked piracy spyware botnet garbage. Not just hosting malicious posts for free like Section 230 protects, but selling illegal physical devices and taking a cut of the profit and excusing it with a pathetic whack-a-mole moderation system. It's already illegal and the law has already failed.

Sean Parker's mistake was that he wasn't rich enough.

Laws are for poor people.

bronko_nagurski 5 hours ago|
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