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Posted by delichon 18 hours ago

Karpathy’s Pelican(twitter.com)
https://xcancel.com/karpathy/status/2083749667410727319
317 points | 259 commentspage 4
mold_aid 3 hours ago|
The tilde thing remains uniquely obnoxious in a field that seems want to mangle language for fun, so that's innovative I guess
hkalbasi 5 hours ago||
This makes me think about using a game engine and a coding agent instead of current video generation AIs. It will probably cost much more, but it will have almost zero consistency problems. Is this line explored?
OtherShrezzing 4 hours ago||
> I also like this kind of examples because no one in their right mind would ever spend the time to write something this custom

This is an odd take, given that Karpathy is certainly aware that the LotR films absolutely did create Bag End in digital format; that their creation was outstandingly high quality; and that Claude’s output here very obviously “leans heavily” on their prior art.

wiradikusuma 5 hours ago||
Do you guys notice that LLM can create fancy viz/animations by coding them instead of leveraging what we humans usually use (e.g Lottie, After Effects)?

I wonder if Flash is still popular... LLM can use that instead...?

dofm 4 hours ago||
Anthropic spokesman [0] Andrej Karpathy is here to tell you about token-wasting loops, and insists on the weird idea that they are "~free", when in fact, they are fuelled by expensively burning investor money.

[0] Seriously. Get used to mentally prefixing his and Boris Cherny's name like this, every time you see them quoted. These people are speaking while employed; there is no chance they are not aligned with the employers who will make them wealthy. The tech industry does like to pretend that for some reason AI people, uniquely, speak thoughts unbiased and for themselves or even for science or humanity.

teiferer 1 hour ago||
> sure, why not, it's ~free

Yeah, please check in with the folks protesting data center builds in their town causing their electricity prices to skyrocket and tap water to turn into a scarce resource.

And now, instead of actually doing the above, please go ahead and downvote me, because how dare he question those LLM games.

skakcnejwisnsid 1 hour ago|
> because how dare he question those LLM games. I thought you are the one who's on Greta's side, you ar e the one who should be saying "how dare you?"
killingtime74 1 hour ago||
I love how nobody cares about copyright anymore. Not even an after thought. Might be okay if you're an employee of anthropic/openai but for us mere mortals I'm not sure I would share something this blatant. In US it's $150k+ per violation and you've given them all the proof (even a confession)
serf 5 hours ago||
you don't really need screenshots if you have an engine expressive enough for the scene generation while ensuring the visual appearance of the engine output itself is feasible.

that's why these things are actually pretty good at openscad/freecad/F360 mcps , the visual reality is enforced and guaranteed by rigor in the interpretation engine that is anchored to human physical reality.

quantumleaper 5 hours ago||
I'm sad that Andrej Karpathy went from being one of the most reasonable, trusted, and credible voices in AI to peddling marketing slop for Anthropic.

8 months ago, he was (very reasonably) claiming that reliable agents are at least a decade away, but this now goes against the interest of his employer, so the narrative has been changed.

novia 5 hours ago||
He makes a very good point here about llms or lrms not being good at taking video as inputs, and i think he's signaling his intent to help change that. He's pointing at an open problem. This isn't a carefully structured blog post, it's just a tweet.
azan_ 5 hours ago|||
> 8 months ago, he was (very reasonably) claiming that reliable agents are at least a decade away, but this now goes against the interest of his employer, so the narrative has been changed.

Or maybe over these 8 months agents improved a lot? You know, few years ago many AI experts predicted that things we are routinely doing now with AI are decades away. I mean how can you look at this post and not be impressed? It's insane what AI is currently capable of.

Rexxar 5 hours ago|||
What narrative has changed ? I just see an experiment with a very perfectible result and some reflections about what capacity are currently missing to have better results.
budsniffer952 5 hours ago||
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azan_ 5 hours ago|||
Yeah, it appears that if your prior is that AI can't be good, no evidence can convince you that actually current models are extremely capable.
micromacrofoot 5 hours ago|||
you're doing the exact same thing by making the inverse claim without any information, at least the original comment claims some change for someone to investigate... all you're doing is disagreeing as an opportunity to be snarky
Gooblebrai 5 hours ago|
I can't believe the video demo is $10
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