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Posted by baranul 4 days ago

I stopped trusting USB-C cable labels and started testing them(www.makeuseof.com)
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TechRemarker 7 hours ago|
Started using whatcable.uk app. Been amazing at finally knowing cable speed, but also device max speeds, and everything in between, without having to carry around one of those digital dongles with more limited use.
fabiensanglard 4 hours ago||
I have completely stopped buying USB. I only rely on thunderbolt cables and hubs now.
Melatonic 8 hours ago||
If you want a super fast cable and high power thats where they get pricey. "Charge only" cables can often be fairly cheap and perform well even for laptops and high draw devices.
Melatonic 8 hours ago||
Isnt this what "USB-IF certified" is supposed to guarantee?
craftkiller 8 hours ago||
USB-IF certified is a certification that the cable follows the spec, but that spans usb 2.0-only cables up to USB4v2 cables. The tester shows you what the capabilities are.
dwheeler 7 hours ago||
Yes, there's even a spec here: https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/usb_type-c_cable_log...

The cables are supposed to be labelled with their maximum speed (5, 10, 20, 40, or 80 Gbps or nothing if no data) and maximum wattage (60W or 240W).

HOWEVER, I don't remember ever seeing a cable with such a label. I'm sure they exist, but I don't see them. Requiring products to be labelled, and treating mislabelling as fraud, could mostly solve this. It's definitely a real problem.

okanat 6 hours ago|||
> Requiring products to be labelled, and treating mislabelling as fraud, could mostly solve this.

There are too many manufacturers to hunt. Basically USB-IF needs to stop almost all shipments in the world. That's not going to happen.

USB spec is completely open and free to obtain. While it allows people to develop and DIY many things, it also attracts bad manufacturers like flies.

Good certified cables with correct markings exist. There are companies like Cable Matters or Startech who bother to actually certify their cables and get USB-IF TIDs. They do cost you quite a bit money though. Here are some:

https://www.cablematters.com/pc-1532-123-usb-c-20-charging-c...

https://www.cablematters.com/pc-858-123-usb-if-certified-usb...

https://www.startech.com/en-de/cables/1m-40g-usb4-cable

https://www.startech.com/en-de/cables/s2cepr1m-usb-cable

ButlerianJihad 7 hours ago|||
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Dylan16807 8 hours ago||
Just measuring the power info is limited use. I'm sure there's value for some people, but I only need to keep track of 0-2 high power cables.

> Your no-brand 480Mbps USB 2.0 cable is indistinguishable from the super-fast USB 4 cable that can move 40 gigabits (around 5 gigabytes) of data every single second.

One of those is way thicker than the other, at least.

I would love for something to force a speed and power rating on USB-C plugs.

massysett 8 hours ago||
> I would love for something to force a speed and power rating on USB-C plugs.

This already exists. Cable makers can certify their cables and mark them with their data speed and wattage.

I buy only certified, marked cables. If I see an unmarked cable, I assume it’s slow and low-powered…which is good enough for some things.

Dylan16807 1 hour ago||
> This already exists. Cable makers can certify their cables and mark them with their data speed and wattage.

Obviously labeling is possible. I want it to be forced.

Whether that's the USB consortium having more power, or a legal requirement, or the biggest stores refusing to carry unlabeled cables.

> If I see an unmarked cable, I assume it’s slow and low-powered…which is good enough for some things.

That's a reasonable way to handle things. Lots of basic cables and only worry about the good ones. And if a cable is so bad that it's missing data wires or is too high resistance to get near 3 amps, it can go in the garbage.

avadodin 8 hours ago||
> One of those is way thicker than the other, at least.

I bet there's at least one brand with extra–thick plastic insulation.

yieldcrv 3 hours ago||
I just pay a premium to a reliable source: Apple

Regardless of tests they do charge my most energy hungry devices and everything else

Many of us are privileged enough to make our lives easier in this way and haven't thought about it

b3lvedere 1 hour ago|
I don't know how my wife and kids are treating charging cables, but the cables seem not to live that super long in their hands :) So paying premium constantly seemed like a money sink hole for me. Strangely enough once they start to buy their own damn cables instead of me paying, the lifespan of said cables seemed to quadruple. Strange strange universe we live in. :)
mrtesthah 6 hours ago||
Instead of using a dedicated device, on Macs you can also use the WhatCable app:

https://www.whatcable.uk

JSR_FDED 5 hours ago||
This is really good. The base is open source, and has both GUI and a CLI. For the purposes of this article, identifying what each cable can actually do, that’s covered. There’s additional Pro capabilities that you can pay for.
jerbearito 4 hours ago||
Sure, but that doesn't allow the author to share an Amazon affiliate link for a product.
ahs1 8 hours ago||
hmm, how about just being able to infer the features of a cable by it's physical form factor? oh wait...
swrrt 6 hours ago|
then you have a bunch of cables and wires that with all different types of connector that you can 'easily' identify which one is for which device. sounds familiar hah
songhonglei1985 4 hours ago|
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