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Posted by nikolay_sivko 6 hours ago

Andy Pavlo joins ClickHouse to establish ClickHouse Labs(clickhouse.com)
215 points | 46 comments
a34729t 3 hours ago|
I'm very curious about the convergence of the best in class fast OLAP products (StarRocks, ClickHouse) with Trino. It sounds like everybody is going for decoupled compute/storage, using S3 or similar as the storage layer, and thus forgoing colocated joins (ok I know ClickHouse joins suck)...

So what does this mean for ingestion (and indexing)? Iceberg V3? Paimon? Bespoke ingestion through the DB engine to do the indexing?

jimmyl02 2 hours ago||
It's also interesting how Clickhouse / Starrocks can now also act as a query planner and executor on top of non-native formats (ex. Iceberg).

I assume the native formats will always be faster / more optimized but the need for Trino as a separate executor while running either of these databases seems to be close to gone.

a34729t 1 hour ago||
The benefit of StarRocks/ClickHouse over Trino is that you get secondary indices, but that means you have to do the indexing somehow.

Native format is faster (especially for colocated joins), but it's way more expensive if you have to run a bunch of separate storage nodes vs just using S3, especially your query volume isn't that high.

I liken it to the BigQuery cost model, where storage is effectively free.

efromvt 1 hour ago|||
I’ve historically read this as ‘open format compatible’ but ‘native preferred’ - where this opens up market space and dev velocity - but it’ll be interesting to see if native storage differentiation gets dumped entirely. It just seems like ‘fork and optimize for our engine’ would always be tempting enough that you’d want a native play for when you don’t need the decoupling.
mrits 2 hours ago||
Clickhouse joins have been improving almost every month for the last couple of years. Maybe they still suck but a lot less
remywang 1 hour ago||
Looks like Andy's here, so if you see this - please also try to convince ClickHouse to consider funding DB research in academia. With all the money being poured into AI and the chaos in government funding, there is almost nothing for DB research anymore.
tomsanbear 5 hours ago||
Always enjoyed his lecture series from CMU, hopefully those continue in a sponsored format from Clickhouse.
apavlo 4 hours ago|
They will continue. New seminar series starts next month (announcement coming this week).
AbbeFaria 3 hours ago|||
I “audited” CMU 15-445 in April 2026, a few months ago. I then applied to Azure Hyperscale DB team, and as my pitch to get hired I cold DM’d the hiring manager whatever I finished in the assignments (BPM, Concurrent B-tree, Transaction support etc).

With that, I was able to get the interview although I ended up failing it. My lack of experience in C++ was probably one of the main reasons. Your course helped me stand my own during the interview and even though I had zero database experience apart from finishing the course, I felt adequately prepared.

Thank you for making the course open source. As a working professional, it was helpful to be able to do the course on my own time. Suffice to say, I am a big fan of your work and thank you for introducing me (and other fellow learners) to the interesting world of Databases!

ibgeek 2 hours ago||||
Will you maintain a connection to CMU? If so, what will you continue doing and at what percent of effort?
coolThingsFirst 37 minutes ago|||
Your DB course is phenomenal. Thank you very much for making it available to all of us!
danlark1 5 hours ago||
Congrats, that's incredible news. Watched apavlo@'s lectures while studying in the university and finished my bachelor thesis implementing features and doing research at ClickHouse. Surprised to see these worlds being together now!
gavinray 3 hours ago||
Clickhouse just became the hottest talent-attraction on the market.

Congrats Andy, hope you enjoy the ride =)

adrianco 4 hours ago||
Hi Andy, that’s very cool news. Will you be at the HPTS workshop in October?
throwaw12 5 hours ago||
That's great news for Clickhouse and for Andy I guess, they are both obsessed with databases and are at the cutting edge.
Tostino 1 hour ago||
Hope it goes well for you Andy. Have loved your lectures over the years.

Best of luck!

sigbottle 1 hour ago|
Yooo is this the CMU funny guy?
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