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Posted by pmg101 4 days ago

There Will Come Soft Rains (1950) [pdf](users.wpi.edu)
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r3trohack3r 3 days ago|
A rendition of this was aired on X-Minus One

https://archive.org/details/OTRR_X_Minus_One_Singles/XMinusO...

phreeza 3 days ago|
Funny there the date is April 1985, a lot earlier and almost my birthday!
andai 4 days ago||
This story was adapted into a short animated film in 1987:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNHYz89sNc

(Russian, with subtitles.)

Mikhail_Edoshin 4 days ago||
Bradbury was very popular in USSR. His Wikipedia page has an anecdote of a Soviet filmmaker recognizing him in a crowd and surprising the rest of the celebrities around who had no idea who Bradbury was. (Another such author would be Vonnegut.)

There was a Soviet publisher Kniga (Book) that published only books about other books: book art, technology, bibliophile stories and so on. One of their books was a collection of short stories whose main topic was books, reading, writing or similar. One of stories was Bradbury's "Forever and the Earth", translated, of course, but very well. I was a teenager then an I remember being deeply impressed by it. I knew Bradbury, of course, but mostly from sci-fi and he wasn't really a sci-fi author. (One of Soviet sci-fi writers pointed out that Bradbury was pretty much anti-scientific in his stance.) That story made Bradbury stand out for me.

r721 4 days ago|||
Better quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quyaaszg6jc
throwaway270925 3 days ago||
> 1987

correction: 1984

tetris11 3 days ago||

    Eternal rains will come  
    We should say goodbye   
    And suffer on our own  
    As all our thoughts were wrong
marking-time 3 days ago|
Thank you for that.

I one of the reasons I liked the story was the embedded poetry. It adds a mindful stillness that creates a poignancy.

spmealin 3 days ago||
One of my favorite versions is read by Nimoy. https://web.archive.org/web/20200615075956/https://www.youtu...
blooalien 3 days ago|
Thanks for this. I read the written version while listening to Nimoy's reading in the background. :)
abhishek03113 3 days ago||
reminded me of this joke

Tech enthusiasts: "Everything in my house is wired to the internet of things. I control it from my smartphone. My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I give it voice commands via Alexa, I love the future!"

vs

Programmers/Engineers: "I work in IT so my house has mechanical locks, mechanical windows, routers using OpenWRT, no smart home crap, no Alexa/Google assistants, no internet connected thermostats etc".

inigyou 3 days ago|
You forgot the punchline: "the smartest thing in my house is a printer, and I keep a gun next to it in case it makes a funny noise."
stodor89 15 hours ago|||
I'd never trust a printer enough to leave a gun next to it. Especially if it's HP.
abhishek03113 3 days ago|||
yeah lol !
laszlojamf 3 days ago||
The most interesting thing about science fiction to me isn't the things the authors get right, but what they get wrong. Like, the whole house talking in a ChatGPT voice, intelligent appliances, etc: brilliant prescience. But he still thought we'd be having linoleum on our floors...
bell-cot 3 days ago||
> But he still thought we'd be having linoleum on our floors...

Yes, but no. He's writing a story about a character (the automated house) that needs lots (relative to the story length) of explaining. "Linoleum" very quickly conveys "kitchen floor", helps anchor the story in details familiar to his readers - and most of those readers would know linoleum is quite flammable, so it also advances the plot.

Futurism is a heavy theme in most SF writing, but you shouldn't let futurism get in the way of good story writing.

specialist 3 days ago|||
Linoleum became the premium option, now named marmoleum.

https://www.forbo.com/flooring/en-us/commercial-products/lin...

If fossil carbon ever becomes (commercially) scarce, vinyl might end up the premium choice.

I predict plank will always suck.

MSFT_Edging 3 days ago|||
I've actually considered premium linoleum for the give underfoot. LVP is such a terrible flooring. Sure it's cheap to buy and install, but man you feel that cheapness.
officeplant 3 days ago|||
>he still thought we'd be having linoleum on our floors...

We still do! Idk if that is changing anytime soon in my life at least.

tgv 3 days ago|||
I'd hazard changes in taste are more random than technological progress.
ZoomZoomZoom 3 days ago|||
Lots of places still use PVC covering commonly called linoleum. And laminate that I see everywhere is not so technologically remote, with its plastic surface.
valiant55 3 days ago|||
The one that stuck out to me was all the automation, full breakfast etc but the house has to remind them to pay the bills.
bean469 2 days ago|||
Linoleum is kind of great, actually. It doesn't get cold as much as tiles and is super easy to clean
Tade0 3 days ago|||
To quote an obscure reference from my country:

Regarding linoleum let's agree to disagree. I for one appreciate it.

It is still present in my region to an extent. This year my relative bought an apartment where the kitchen floor is made from it.

rubyfan 3 days ago|||
It would be dull to write about all the great new building materials our houses are made and the utter lack of futuristic convenience we actually have.
zerohm 3 days ago||
I mean, LVP is very popular today and is really not much different from Linoleum.
Tade0 3 days ago||
I feel like the modern version of this would have the neighbourhood largely intact, but humans killed via miniature drones.

Drives home the point how few anticipated that batteries would advance so much.

ben_w 3 days ago||
There are many ways this could all end, a nuclear war is still on the list.

"Wireheaded by social media so hard you're unemployable" is at least as plausible as a city-scale antipersonel drone strike; even Ukraine's strikes against Russia are around 1200-1800/day.

inigyou 3 days ago|||
Why don't they strike Vlad with one of them?
ben_w 3 days ago||
I can think of many possible reasons.

I suspect the real answer is that between decoys and Russian intel agencies hiding him, and his grip on power that currently means he's going to be in range of useful air defence and a good bunker even if it's literally the last system Russia has left, they likely literally cannot at the present time.

(Not that it changes what I just wrote, but IIRC most of the Russian personel losses are short-range (20 km) antipersonel drones, the long-range stuff is currently targetting materiel, logistics, and whatever you count oil as, in so doing they only incidentally hit people).

Denote6737 3 days ago||
you say that like trump wasn't stopped from launching nukes at iran by one of his military advisors.
inigyou 3 days ago||
Come to think of it, why hasn't Israel launched any? We know they have them, Iran knows they have them, and they're not as restrained.
GlickWick 3 days ago|||
My guess has always been the delicate balance of perception. Nukes are (rightfully) perceived to be beyond the basic destruction we've come to expect of war. They're a tool for annihilation. If you use them offensively the rest of the world will become so afraid of you that they'll nuke you so you can't nuke them. Israel isn't strong enough to entertain the idea that they could survive this.
inigyou 3 days ago||
I really don't think that country is worried about its international perception right now.
GlickWick 3 days ago||
They will if it means they stop existing
inigyou 3 days ago||
If not for corruption, they already would have.
lowbloodsugar 3 days ago||||
I would assume that while Iran doesn't have the material for a bomb, they have enough nasty material for an air burst to do significant long-term impact. They couldn't possibly use it unless Israel nuked them first.
inigyou 3 days ago||
Iran's previous leader - the one we killed - had a mandate to build up material for nuclear bombs but not actually develop a bomb. Its new leader also wants to develop a bomb.
marking-time 3 days ago|||
This is such an interesting point. Interesting as in terrifying.
water-data-dude 4 days ago||
For most of my life it's felt like we've been moving away from this scenario, but lately it's felt like we're sliding back towards it
kibwen 4 days ago||
The great sleight-of-hand of the 20th century is that it never went away, we all just collectively decided to stop thinking about the fact that at every given moment for the rest of human history we'll never be more than thirty minutes away from total nuclear annihilation.
pfdietz 3 days ago|||
The world doesn't have enough nuclear weapons for "total nuclear annihilation".
ben_w 3 days ago|||
To end all humans with the weapons directly? Indeed not.

To break all logistics chains, ending most industrial output, reducing carrying capacity back to the pre-industrial age? That I think is still doable.

wat10000 3 days ago||||
There's plenty enough to make the second-worst war in human history look like an enjoyable beach vacation by comparison.
SkyeCA 3 days ago|||
Perhaps not, but there's no functional difference to the millions (hundreds of millions even) of victims if you start hitting major population centres.
jandrese 3 days ago|||
The fall of the USSR chopped the legs out from under these stories. Nobody is worried about Iraq, Iran, or Afghanistan unleashing global thermonuclear war. That scare tactic just doesn't work. Even back in the 60s a lot of that paranoia was the result of internal propaganda.
flyinghamster 4 days ago||
You're not kidding. I read this in the late 70s, and it's a bit of a gut punch to revisit it now, on the very day of the story, in a world where smart homes are somewhat there and nuclear saber-rattling is once again the theme of the day.

Of course, writing about the future means you won't get everything right - especially once specific dates or years enter the picture and technologies are in use that haven't been invented (or invented and discarded) yet. Nobody predicted that World War III would last as long as it has, or be so full of utter stupidity. On the technological front, film projectors are relics in this era, and film-based storage never really caught on. On the other hand, videotape wasn't around in 1950, and even audio tape was a fairly new technology.

MengerSponge 4 days ago||
https://wnyc.org/story/bradbury-centennial-with-neil-gaiman

Yetide Badaki's marvelous reading begins at 3:50

dredmorbius 4 days ago||
OT: Selected Shorts is wonderful.

My one complaint: it's rarely revealed when a story was published, and it took me far, far, far too long to realise that many of my favourites were many decades old.

That said, hearing a story read and acted by a skilled player is its own joy. I'm a good reader, but I'm not that level of good, and a few decades of listening to Shorts has improved my own inner-reading voice.

Available as a podcast, though the back-catalogue is parlous brief, largely due to copyright, I suspect. Still worth following.

MengerSponge 4 days ago||
With the right podcatcher* settings the back-catalogue issue goes away. It's still annoying when you want to share a particularly moving story with friends.

*) Overcast user here: "Smart Speed has saved you 419 hours beyond speed adjustments alone"

srean 3 days ago||
Thanks for sharing this gem.
doodlebugging 4 days ago|
Well. This is the day. It looks like this poster from the Vietnam War era may have come to pass. [0]

[0]https://www.etsy.com/listing/1266371519/vintage-original-197...

Lucky for us.

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