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Posted by thewebguyd 5 hours ago

Apple says more ex-employees may have taken confidential data to OpenAI(techcrunch.com)
246 points | 180 commentspage 2
mortar 1 hour ago|
https://archive.is/GbXn0
vachina 3 hours ago||
A few of my colleagues were fired for including source code derived from Apple specifications in their Copilot session (yes we use Copilot).
lorreyfum 3 hours ago||
Bring back Scott Forstall and get rid of half the employees at Apple. Time to clean house, they’ve lost their innovation and hunger.
ausbah 3 hours ago||
this reads like a blind comment
throwaway23597 3 hours ago|||
What on earth does this opinion have to do with anything?
senderista 3 hours ago||
What was so great about Scott Forstall?
Y-bar 3 hours ago||
A sense of responsibility that the user experience should never be compromised. He never wanted to release Maps for example in the state it was, yet had to take the fall for its failure.
namuol 3 hours ago||
What’s the speculation about what leaked? Are we talking about next-gen on-device neural accelerators or something along those lines?
mosura 2 hours ago|
One of the things mentioned was specific metal finishing techniques for manufacturing.

The implication being at least some of this is to do with OpenAI making consumer hardware, as designed by Ives.

pclowes 3 hours ago||
Apple is historically successfully secretive.

I suspect their security “lapses” are more along the lines of “give them enough rope to thoroughly hang themselves”

tonyedgecombe 3 hours ago||
A lot of the legal action is a warning to current employees who may have been considering doing the same.
groundzeros2015 1 hour ago|||
Apple is large. People free stronger allegiance to their cultural and ethnic groups than their companies. They just don’t want to get in trouble.
paxys 3 hours ago|||
That secretive culture died over a decade ago. Everything gets leaked now.
slashdave 3 hours ago|||
Why do think they would want to be vindictive? The point is to prevent leaks, leaving lapses is exactly counter to that goal.
modeless 3 hours ago||
Apple leaks like a sieve. The extreme secrecy culture is a pointless drag on productivity, maintained long past its usefulness for the sole benefit of the execs practicing their Steve Jobs "one more thing" keynote cargo cult.
mosura 2 hours ago||
What is curious is Apple quality was much higher when they were secretive.

The idea that it is a drag on productivity is self evidently wrong based on results.

pop3zxcv 3 hours ago||
Does it matter? As long as the data is in the 1st brain and can be taken outside and used as a skill.
josefritzishere 4 hours ago||
AI seems to always be stealing from someone
slashdave 2 hours ago|
Please don't assume the entire AI industry behaves like OpenAI
Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago||
Isomorphic plagiarism by definition must steal from experts/creatives, chat/markup users, and or other models.

Compaction and dynamic granularity encoding only abstract the Micky Mouse trademarked logo lurking in almost every model. =3

kbelder 2 hours ago||
>Isomorphic plagiarism by definition must steal from experts/creatives

You seem to want to be precise, so you should probably use a different term than 'stealing'. It, by definition, is not the correct term.

Joel_Mckay 1 hour ago||
stealing: "To take (the property of another) without right or permission."

A Trademark is considered intellectual property. It is theft, and Disney could still drop a boot on the industry. Similar works found in high-dimension vector search spaces also do not escape legal peril in copyright similarity cases.

Perhaps some conflated the methodology of training and use of generative mechanisms with the legal interpretation of "uncopyrightable" output in commercial settings. =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhgYMH6n004

leoh 42 minutes ago||
This is such a disaster of Apple’s own making.

Apple is retarded in that they encourage their employees to use their personal iCloud credentials while working there and make it very difficult for employees to request a serrate work phone. It is tremendously idiotic from a security standpoint and is not the way virtually any other big firm does things.

As a Google employee I can’t imagine them compelling me to use a personal Gmail account for anything.

Moreover, although we can use personal Android devices, most orgs make it easy for employees to get a separate work phone. To the degree they allow personal android devices, this is only because Google has done significant work to allow for an isolated “work” profile with an entirely different email address / login. Because iPhone lacks this feature, corporate access on those devices is heavily curtailed.

I somehow doubt the Apple board has been made aware of these shenanigans and abhorrent security posture.

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