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Posted by xnx 2 hours ago

Waymo – Dallas Open to All(waymo.com)
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elianaive 1 hour ago|
Keeps on being rolled out in red states while being delayed in blue states, quite unfortunate.
runako 1 hour ago||
Divide this differently:

- states where the major cities commonly have snow for > 3 months

- states where the major cities commonly have snow for < 1 month

Inclement weather is likely the differentiator. Blue state California gets Waymo in its biggest cities, which handily do not get much snow. The other Waymo cities are all below the Mason-Dixon Line.

WarmWash 1 minute ago|||
NYC has Mamdani, who is a very progressive populist mayor, and a longtime (active) supporter of the taxi drivers union.

There is close to zero chance it gets approval in NYC before 2030. I'd be totally floored if he goes against the union, but the optics are absolutely terrible for cabs.

xnx 59 minutes ago||||
Blocked even from testing in NYC. Blocked from DC and Boston. Unfortunately this does have more to do with bad government than bad weather.
runako 36 minutes ago||
Boston, according to Waymo[1], is dependent on the legislature making autonomous vehicles legal. Apparently NY state laws also require a human driver at the wheel.

The only surprising thing about this is that other states did not require changes in law. It's Good, Actually, that big companies are (sometimes) bound by the same laws that bind the rest of us.

In any case, there are more than 2-3 "blue" states. We can note that it's also not running in cold "red" states either. The climate angle fits the data best and aligns with what Waymo says, which aligns with what we have known about the tech for at least a decade.

(That note also suggests they are still testing their cold-weather kit and are not quite ready.)

1 - https://waymo.com/blog/shorts/back-to-boston/

warkdarrior 59 minutes ago|||
They tried to roll out in New York City, but the city did not approve.

https://www.twu.org/twu-tech-newsletter-waymo-no-mo-in-nyc-f...

senkora 37 minutes ago||
I personally saw a Waymo in NYC on June 26th at 14th St and 8th Avenue, so they’ve done some recent testing at least.
cortesoft 1 hour ago|||
They have been fully open here in Los Angeles for almost two years now.
porphyra 19 minutes ago|||
the metro areas where it gets rolled out are all blue regardless of state
Zigurd 1 hour ago|||
It's easier to roll out in places where it seldom snows.
xnx 58 minutes ago||
Definitely true, but snow affecting driving conditions is becoming pretty rare in cities like Chicago.
skeeter2020 33 minutes ago||
maybe weather events that disrupt travel, but impact things like visibility, lane definition, etc? That's still super-common in Chicago and a lot of the US.
dmitrygr 1 hour ago|||
"Maybe it's something you've got that they haven't got." - Owen Kellogg
mrtesthah 1 hour ago|||
Is it unfortunate, though?
km3r 1 hour ago||
The anti-science slopulism of the far left is infecting blue states. Hopefully the liberal left can fight back to prevent the party being taken over like maga did to Republicans.
wwalexander 1 hour ago||
What “anti-science slopulism” are you referring to? And what does corporate rollout strategy have to do with science?
xnx 55 minutes ago||
History of being anti-nuclear. Now against "AI" and self driving cars because they like trains.
seltzered_ 1 hour ago||
Something to hold in mind are the issues with scaling out to new cities in terms of safety risks: https://junkoyoshidaparis.substack.com/p/rapid-scaling-turns...
breckenedge 1 hour ago||
Service area is still miniscule.
xnx 54 minutes ago|
Gotta start somewhere. Still bigger than any competitor.
yieldcrv 1 hour ago||
Waymo sells itself

People hate human drivers more than they hate the idea of AI drivers

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/04/business/uber-sexual-assa...

bicx 1 hour ago||
It’s an extremely consistent experience, and you can sit in the front seat (something I like personally). With Uber and taxi services, you never know what kind of driver or ride you’re going to get.
ooopsss 1 hour ago||
Uber is at least 1000x better than traditionally taxi, without any rating system.
sbuttgereit 56 minutes ago||
They use to be (along with Lyft). But it's been a very long time since that was clearly true.

In reality I think you can get better experiences than a taxi with a rideshare service (which they really aren't for a very long time), but it's very hit or miss.

So less consistently bad as a taxi service... but far from consistently good.

giancarlostoro 1 hour ago||
The real test is, can these self-driving cars drive I-4 without getting into any sort of wreck?

https://www.worldatlas.com/places/the-most-dangerous-highway...

airstrike 1 hour ago||
I love Waymo. The only problem I have with it is that it further siphons wages from local economies into Silicon Valley, beyond what Uber/Lyft already did.
boc 32 minutes ago|
You could argue that cheaper/safer local rideshare would boost traffic to local bars and restaurants in denser areas though. If you want to keep the $ local, just add an AV tax that goes to the city.
Geezus_42 1 hour ago||
Dallas drivers are bad enough already...
ape4 1 hour ago|
Anyone with a credit card
ventana 52 minutes ago||
Debit card works just fine with Waymo, just like with Lyft and Uber.
1over137 1 hour ago|||
And presumably their app?, which requires either an Apple or Google account.
smt88 1 hour ago||
Uber app only requires an email address
wilg 55 minutes ago|||
I'm sure you can imagine why it might be unnecessarily complicated for a Waymo to take cash.
vel0city 35 minutes ago||
There are tons of automated systems which take cash. I do agree it would add some complexity to the equipment in the car, but its not like it would be that difficult to do it. These cars have to go back to the depot eventually, emptying the cash bins would just be one more cleaning step. I do agree though they don't bother because it probably would cost more to manage in the end than the amount of rides they're losing not accepting cash.

Just another example though, while credit card processing fees aren't always cheap its not like its free to process cash.

smt88 1 hour ago||
What reason would someone have not to have a credit or debit card? Credit cards are literally free money, as long as you pay the balance off on time
dymk 58 minutes ago||
Credit cards are not free money lmao