Posted by michaefe 5 days ago
At some castle courtyard, we were walking around on a smooth-white-gravel surface, and I didn't immediately register how different it felt.
Stare at the ground for a few moments, and notice some of the small (15-20mm) off-white pebbles are perfectly aligned on a grid pattern.
Squat down to investigate, and they've got these corners of the plastic mesh geogrid topped off with little white caps that are almost indiscernible from the rounded white aggregate they're using as infill. It was almost like seeing a random dot stereogram, except completely regular (and no dinosaurs) of course.
The math is pretty interesting, and TFA didn't touch on this aspect I don't think. I'm looking to use 10-20mm irregular shaped scoria on a large-ish area, and the heuristic evidently is that your maximum aggregate size should not exceed one third of the geocell depth - so I'd want 50mm depth at most there, sitting on solid-ish sub-layer.
(I believe that heuristic goes out the window if you've got regular shaped gravel.)
The other ratio to consider is aggregate size to cell size, and that, in turn, is dependent on load and slope. Then there's the mechanical attributes of your in-fill (will it slowly crush over time, with expected loads - for softer rocks you'll definitely need a geotextile above your sub-base and below your geo-cell.) All tremendously more complicated than the 'few wheelbarrows of blue metal' I grew up with.
Can buy brick pavers for that and you still have to purchase the pebbles to go in it…
geogrid is orders of magnitude easier and quicker to install.
Even Bunnings (albeit marketplace) has 100mm geogrid for $20 / square metre.
Most local vendors have 'call us for pricing', but I've found a few others in the $10-20 range. Obviously, yes, in-fill on top of that - say $250 a cube depending on your tastes, so add $12-25 per square metre.
As per sibling comment - with some fabric underneath, and a modest amount of ground prep, installation of this stuff sounds fast and easy.
The more traditional approach is to surround dirt or rubble with something that has more tensile strength. Some Egyptian pyramids were built that way. One of them fell down because the outward pressure from the load above was not sufficiently contained. Traditional stone construction of large structures is all about containing that outward push. That's what flying buttresses and bridge abutments do.
That isn't really why. The loss of tensile strength from rebar decomposition isn't what kills it.
Steel expands as it rusts. It breaks apart the concrete via expansion just like freezing water would. If you had a mix of steel and stainless steel rebar, the rusting of the normal steel would destroy the concrete all the same.
(I was going to link to a picture, but at least half the images of corroded rebar found by search are AI-generated. Bogus technical pictures are getting out of control. Just saw some of the construction of the Panama Canal. No, steam shovels there did not have cowcatchers.)
It seems like there are usually biobased solutions out there, but they aren't as cost-effective or easy to procure as the forever plastics, so organizations don't bother with them. Perhaps some kind of incentive would get us moving in the right direction.
You need to avoid certain kinds of biodegradation but you don't need "forever".
And in particular if you could make very small pieces biodegrade quickly, and only those, you'd instantly solve microplastics.
Not really relevant to geocells but quite relevant for e.g. timber, which might last a hundred years in a roof but start to rot in six months of composting.
Although that's not going to protect you from crystalline dust from silica and asbestos.
Ha! just looked up the video, seems it’s another practical engineering video I was thinking of
Another mystery this has solved for me that I forgot to look into is washboarding on roads. If you’ve ever been to Chilean Patagonia you’ll know that the national park roads there have extraordinary traffic and consequently have quite an intense amount of washboarding. I thought perhaps this was some intentional structure wrought to give cars purchase when the roads are wet. It’s actually because of wheels acting as friction and pushing material forward to some point after which they proceed over it and repeat. It is surprisingly periodic and I thought surely intentionally built.
As an aside, I skipped over the video and ended up reading the text (which suspiciously was like an article without web assets loaded) and I wonder if use of AI could have built a freeze frame article out of this. The video is 18 min long but the text can be read in a fraction of the time.
Regardless, top quality link. Very interesting stuff. Surprisingly old too. We’ve had the tech for 50 years and we have used it in a widespread fashion in the civil world for three decades or so.