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Posted by embedding-shape 2 days ago

Three Six Mafia – Data about "6/6/6 dating" (2024)(divingintheshallowend.com)
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operation_moose 2 days ago|
Also of note the income data is combined household income (2 incomes for a married couple) and over the entire population (including 40+ later-career incomes).

It's likely significantly over predicting how common $100k yearly income is among the 20-35 year old "dating pool". Though probably balanced out some by being 10 year old data by now.

throwawayffffas 2 days ago|
Buuut it's from 2014, and in case you didn't notice there was quite a bit of inflation between 2014 and now.

Back in 2014 the share of household incomes earning more than 99,999 was 34.5 in 2024 it was 42.8

jimmydddd 2 days ago|||
Probably what was meant by "Though probably balanced out some by being 10 year old data by now."
economistbob 2 days ago||||
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isoprophlex 2 days ago|||
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ClikeX 2 days ago||
There's a fetish joke just hiding here.
0-_-0 2 days ago||
The information that was missing from my life:

For the Average Man, gaining an inch of height is worth losing roughly $25k in annual salary. Meanwhile, an inch of pecker is roughly offset by reducing annual salary by $128k.

ASalazarMX 2 days ago||
I can see how a man's height is evident, the salary might be according to their spending, but how do you market your slightly longer pecker?
ladyanita22 2 days ago|||
So smaller penises are rewarded with higher salaries?
layer8 2 days ago|||
Something to bring up with your manager for the next salary review.
red-iron-pine 2 days ago||||
why do you think they chase the money?
szundi 2 days ago|||
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lesuorac 2 days ago||
> Blended Exclusivity Score ... 17/4000 = 0.425%

> In a gaggle of 100 suitors, it's actually unlikely that a single one will meet all three criteria. Perfection. We now have a truly unreasonable set of standards by which to choose our dating partner.

Is it actually truly unreasonable?

Who has not seen 4000 males? Sure, you might not be able to name 4000 but that's not the criteria. You only need to learn about 1000 of them because visually you can tell the remaining 3000 are too short. And of those 1000 you only need to learn a little to tell if they're going to earn over 100k (i.e. what career path and where they rank in their cohorts).

That Blended Exclusivity Score is really a minimum so of the 170 remaining people at least 17 qualify. You don't even have to sleep with the remaining unqualified ones, make sure the lights are on and just leave if it's too short.

cindyllm 2 days ago|
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itsmemattchung 2 days ago||
This is solid reporting:

> A 6" wiener is even rarer than being 6' tall. The average erect penis length is 5.166" with a std dev of 0.654".

s_dev 2 days ago||
It's not about length though. It's the dick to floor figure.

One of the many gems from Silicon Valley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hUV9yhqgY

This thread is just life imitating art.

bena 2 days ago|||
No, D2F only matters if you're trying to optimize stroke between two hot-swappable participants.

And then it's really if an angle allowed by Base to Floor (B2F) and Length (L) is compatible with an angle allowed by the other participant's B2F and L.

A single woman trying to derive pleasure from a single man has a totally different set of criteria she needs to qualify.

ClikeX 2 days ago|||
South Park also had a great episode about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81bt0ZJLMas

4gotunameagain 2 days ago||
The data cannot be right. Is the average penis really that small in the states ?
ASalazarMX 2 days ago|||
This is probably the data set everyone uses, compiled by Data Panda. Read the sources and methodology, and weep.

https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/penis-size-by-country

rsynnott 2 days ago||||
All such data is a _little_ dubious, as it's pretty much always opt-in, and there'd always be a question of whether you have a fair sample.
BobaFloutist 2 days ago||
If anything, that would lead one to assume that it overestimates typical length.
rsynnott 1 day ago||
Eh, you can imagine it going either way; maybe someone who’s worried about it is more likely to sign up for a dick measuring study?

There’s so much psychological baggage here that I’d be really suspicious of any stats. The Kinsey Report famously found that gay men were almost half an inch bigger than straight men, and for a while that lead to a lot of speculation around sexuality being driven by maternal hormonal differences, but I think these days it’s pretty much accepted that it was probably just selection bias (that bit of the study was optional).

JsonDemWitOster 2 days ago||||
There is a correlation with average waist size here...
koe123 2 days ago|||
No wonder for the overcompensation on the worldstage!
joshdavham 2 days ago||
So I'm an actual "6/6/6"... and I also have a statistics degree. This was absolutely hilarious to read!

I will say that I've seen multiple definitions of the 666 rule where the last 6 represents either penis length or a 6-pack. From personal experience, I will say that maintaining a 6 pack makes you much more desirable in the eyes of women than, uh, the other option.

I'm also not much of a dater, but my friends always freak out at me when I tell them I've never been on a dating app. They seem to think I'd do well. ...Maybe this is my sign that I should try a dating app?

niemandhier 2 days ago||
For a well earning man with a white collar job, keeping a six pack requires a large amount of time away from work.

So it probably is a good proxy measure for quite a few desirable character traits, such as diligence and discipline.

joshdavham 1 day ago|||
Maintaining abs doesn’t necessarily require a ton of work time-wise, but does require you exercise consistently and closely watch what you eat. I used to have very visible abs and honestly it didn’t feel worth it. I like bread too much!
firmretention 1 day ago|||
Not really. The exercise needed is minimal and the rest is just calorie management. Now having said that it's not easy - simple, and not particularly time consuming yes, but psychologically very difficult unless you naturally tend towards leanness.
p0w3n3d 2 days ago||
Yeah and the 6 pack is much easier to achieve
quadruple 2 days ago||
I really thought this post was gonna be adjacent to the hip-hop group, and I was patiently waiting to be told that Poppin one's Collar accounts for a pecker deficit.
nixon_why69 2 days ago|
Really, it should be, they should volunteer for measurements.
rayiner 2 days ago||
Putting on my atheist hat for a minute, I think these statistics are interesting in reminding people that there is an underlying biological and evolutionary process underlying mate selection. You’re being evaluated for biological fitness criteria.

That said, individual chemistry is highly variable so these particular criteria are just a proxy and negotiable. Don’t take stated criteria at face value. My now wife’s type was chubby 6-foot plus midwestern future lawyers. But then she met a 5-9 Bangladeshi in law school and got baby fever and that was that. My personal view of it is God has a plan for all of us, but if you’re an atheist you can see it as the chemistry of biological compatibility being highly complex and individualized.

graemep 2 days ago|
> Putting on my atheist hat for a minute

What is atheist about your comment? Nothing I can see. God has a plan for us does not contradict the evolutionary factors.

reverius42 2 days ago||
A lot of non-atheists are also vocally opposed to, say, teaching evolution in schools. It's easy to see how someone might think atheists typically believe in something that does contradict evolution.
graemep 2 days ago||
I get where it comes from, but it is a very narrow view of the world. Its only really "a lot of non-atheists" in the US and maybe parts of the Middle East, and even then its not a majority of them AFAIK.
rayiner 1 day ago||
I think even religious people who believe in evolution (and non-religious people who were socialized into religious ideas) are sometimes uncomfortable applying evolutionary concepts to pair coupling in humans specifically.
amluto 2 days ago||
For amusement, one could calculate the fraction of the population that has a blended exclusivity score < x (using the article’s 0.425% or any other threshold strictly between 0 and 1), and one will, of course, obtain a result greater than x. So anyone following these dating rule is risking p-hacking their mates!

In the extreme case of using many independent traits, I think one might find that most of the population is in an exclusive minority :)

[0] Use logs. If there are n extra traits that aren’t in the original three, a random person scores some expected log exclusivity points for each extra trait. (Exactly 1 point, in fact, if you use natural logs and negate the result to get positive points.) Multiply that expectation by the number of traits and the average person scores n points. e^-n is very exclusive for even moderate n!

panny 2 days ago||
These numbers seem based on global distributions rather than local ones. After all, six feet is just average height in the Netherlands.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-h...

Maybe that's what the rule tells you. Ladies love the north Europeans.

epolanski 2 days ago||
It's all relative.

You're gonna need to be even bigger in the netherlands, both in height and salary to impress a dutch woman if you're dutch already.

In south east asia you may get away with less height and money.

Sharlin 2 days ago|||
Not in salary though, given that the salaries in TFA are local to the US, and West European salaries are lower, as a rule (East European salaries, of course, even lower).
epolanski 2 days ago|||
What an American makes in absolute terms is irrelevant unless you're planning to move to the US.

And if you're planning to move to the US, then its still irrelevant, because what matters is how much you make in US compared to the cost of living of the US.

Nobody would trade making 40k net in Italy for making 80k net in US, you're actually poorer (and not just financially).

All measures are relative. Absolute wages have stopped being impressive as the world got richer in the last decades and standards of living improved.

shaftway 14 hours ago||
It's not completely irrelevant, especially if you're planning to move back eventually.

If you're a decent software engineer, living in North Elbonia, making $20,000 / year, that's just enough to cover mortgage on a $100,000 house and live. In 30 years you've got a house and that's it.

Or you could move to the Silicon Valley and make $400,000 / year and that's just enough to cover mortgage on a $2,000,000 house and live. In 30 years you've got a house and that's it.

But when you sell your house, move back to North Elbonia, and buy a house there, you've got $1,900,000 banked. I'd take that deal.

pavlov 2 days ago|||
OTOH many women may prefer as partner the European man who doesn't work crazy overtime every night, takes 4 weeks of holidays every year with her, uses his months of legally mandated parental leave when they have a baby...

The 6/6/6 dimensions seem to capture very little about what's actually important for the success of a long-term relationship. I guess that's fine, it's presumably a game for 20-year-olds.

red-iron-pine 2 days ago||
long term success of a relationship =/= mating, breeding, or getting a sugar daddy to cover your lifestyle
abirch 2 days ago|||
Maybe we can get the USA to get the metric system for all those men who are 1.83 meters and below. Or do people internationally say that you need to be 1,8 meters to be dateable?
x3qt 2 days ago||
They do, usually 1,8m+ for men and 1,7m+ for girls
thrownawaysz 2 days ago|||
I'd never call someone from the Netherlands north European, it's western Europe
numbers_guy 2 days ago|||
I'd group the Dutch with the Scandinavians as the "other Germanic branches", possibly also including the UK. As a taxonomy it makes far more sense to me. Western Europe is too broad. You have the French and the Portugese and the Spanish which are all quite different.
bonoboTP 2 days ago|||
It's North when contrasted with the South, like the Mediterranean countries, and West when contrasted with the East, like the old Easter Bloc.
anygivnthursday 2 days ago||
And South when contrasted with the "real" North?

Northern Europe is a region and while there can be various definitions the most common ones do not include Benelux countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe

bonoboTP 2 days ago|||
Southern Europeans, Italians, Spanish, Greeks also call Germany Northern Europe. It's anything where the weather is generally not as hot (well, this is changing) people are more reserved, more work-focused, or individual, less prominent communal eating, big families etc. It's a real thing that I often hear from Southern Europeans. You could also relate it to Catholic / Protestant split perhaps.
x3qt 2 days ago|||
It depends. Quite often, Germanic countries are grouped with Northern Europe because many of them are located around the North Sea, Latin countries with Western Europe, Slavic countries with Eastern Europe, and Balkan countries with Southern Europe.
rob74 2 days ago|||
Average height for boys that were 19 years old in 2019, not for the entire population.
consp 2 days ago|||
Then again, based on local income statistics. Don't know locality of the third one. It's the good old, lies, damned lies and statistics (and meant as humor thus not really an issue).
kilroy123 2 days ago||
Men are pretty tall in Montenegro too.
drcongo 2 days ago|
When I read articles like this, they're so far removed from how me and my male friends interact that I find it hard to believe.
1123581321 2 days ago||
You’re not alone. Most people know a funny person, and someone good with numbers, but it’s less often the same person. You could analyze that with the techniques from the article. :)
BigTTYGothGF 2 days ago||
Just look at some of the other comments here and that'll change pretty quick.
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