Discovery Loop - Hacker News

Posted by xtreak29 9 hours ago

Discovery Loop(www.discoveryloop.com)

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thatsadude 7 hours ago|

This is “google brain”

claiir 7 hours ago||

The job req has "Recursive Self-Improvement" as one of the "area of expertise" checkboxes lol

paxys 7 hours ago|

It is targeted at a dozen or so people at OpenAI and Anthropic, not you or me.

recursive 6 hours ago||

Then why is it published on a public website?

paxys 4 hours ago||

Where else would they publish it?

recursive 3 hours ago||

If it's intended for a global audience of 12, just send it to them. No need to publish.

paxys 1 hour ago||

And how do you know who they all are?

Wonnk13 6 hours ago||

not that it really matters, but is he leaving Google?

constantinum 8 hours ago||

In 2018 there was a beautiful New Yorker article on Jeff Dean and Sanjay https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/12/10/the-friendship...

ChrisArchitect 8 hours ago||

Jeff Dean leaving Alphabet

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49184746

omederos 5 hours ago||

What a team.

xnx 8 hours ago||

I've seen tiny tiny hints from the outside that Jeff Dean was dealing with too much internal BS. Two examples that come to mind: Having to deal with Timnit Gebru fiasco, and even chips in the TPU series getting marketing names (Trillium and Ironwood) before switching back to more standard numbering.

compiler-guy 8 hours ago|

I have no doubt that internal Google friction is one of the reasons they are moving. But the Gebru incident was almost seven years ago now. It is very unlikely to be a proximate cause.

I doubt numbering vs names on TPU releases even crosses Jeff's radar. It's not the kind of thing he cares about.

xnx 5 hours ago||

Yes. I'm not privy to any real insider gossip, but I read all his tweets and watch all his public speeches. He made an offhand comment about the TPU naming. I probably overinterpreted that, but I took it as a sign. There should have been a team around Jeff Dean that acted as an absolute shield for any BS. If Jeff disagrees with anyone at Google outside Sundar/Sergey, the strong onus should be on the other person to justify their stance.

1970-01-01 8 hours ago||

I'm skeptical of any Engineering loop that doesn't include reality (as in touch grass) feedback. Pure logic and reasoning is the domain of Maths and Science (philosophy). Surely it will work, but it will not "be able to solve any learning loop".

LarsDu88 8 hours ago||

I'm almost certain the goal of this startup is to make physical automated research labs guided by RL

XenophileJKO 8 hours ago||

How is that different than video input?

1970-01-01 8 hours ago||

There are over 2 dozen known senses to reality. Video input is a fraction of a sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense#Artificial_sensation_and...

numbers_guy 8 hours ago|

When they say experiments, do they mean using physics simulators?

danielmarkbruce 7 hours ago|

in AI/ML, no. They are just going to automate AI/ML research to start with. Totally doable.

For some of the other things, undoubtably yes.

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