Posted by andros 1 day ago
>Sometimes the most irrelevant piece of a project becomes its absolute protagonist.
'Main focus' would be better in this situation
Well have fun delving into programmatic censorship I guess. Or just take it out. If you take the former path and post about trying to fix it here then I'm sure you'll get a lot more free testing of your attempts to enforce civility through regex or whatever. Enjoy learning about the Scunthorpe problem.
Don't want strangers to abuse your resources and community and hide being anonymous to avoid accountability? Adjust/tune that aspect of your community - why can't you be creative and try to solve the problem with ideas like how tribes and organisms deal with this in person.
maybe we can evolve chat interfaces for this obvious low-cost-noise age. Increase the cost somehow, not saying I know how, but it is definitely possible to filter out noise by being creative. edit: stay tuned and I'll probably figure out some solutions.
If your audience is more than a handful of people, what's the purpose of chat?
For someone to be surprised by this today suggests to me that the person is really really new to managing a website.
- It was once found by one of those worse-than-4chan places, who spent about 4 hours spamming the worst things you could imagine until it ran out of paper. I added some filtering after that to stop tons of duplicate messages from wasting so much paper and some regex, which reduced the volume of some particularly vile things. Some people do post nice messages too.
- The setup breaks often. Eventually, I'll notice and fix it, but it might have been broken for months. Inevitibly, there will be people using it again within days, with no announcement made. How enough people find it on this tiny corner of the internet is a mystery to me, but they do. I am convinced most of them are real people, because why even bother to point a bot at it?
The whole point was that I thought it would be more interesting than letting the thing sit around on a shelf, and to use up the box of rolls that came with it instead of throwing the whole thing in the trash. Intersting it is; I don't think I would describe it as plesant, but it is interesting.
Refreshing pages to establish connection again is semi easy for someone who made a honest mistake (and Could make them more cautious), but if someone wants to trigger web-socket disconnect all the time, it would become cumbersome.
Add something like fail2ban, and you're set enough against passing trollers, but not interesting enough to draw attention from people that like the challenge.
A sad state of affairs, but certainly seems like having a strictly moderated comment section is a better option for a site like this.
Same reason any blank wall in a city will soon be covered in graffiti.
1: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/3/30/maria-abramovic...
Short of that shadow ban everyone everyone sees their own messages, and add a few fake ones every now and then.
Almost anyone who had a "guest book" had pre-moderation some way or another, or was a tiny-tiny website with barely any visitors. The second the larger cyberspace ecosystem got a whiff of your user-input-enabled website, the spamming would appear.