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Posted by aemerson_ 1 day ago

Show HN: I spent 2 years designing a mechanical Magic Keyboard(electronicmaterialsoffice.com)
Hi HN, today I’m revealing Altar II, an ultra-low profile (4.75mm) mechanical keyboard designed to replace your Magic Keyboard. It’s the keyboard I wish Apple made.

Altar II has fully mechanical switches, plus a magnetically detachable dial, haptic feedback, a red backlight, and a native macOS companion app.

I’m a heavy Mac user and I feel that Apple hasn’t given its keyboards the attention they deserve, in terms of hardware, software, and features, so I set out to try and change that.

It was a massive undertaking and it has taken almost 2 years to get to this stage. One of the main obstacles was fitting a reasonably sized battery into the chassis, and aggressive power profiling without messing with the user experience. Another issue was we couldn’t fit any components on the underside of the PCB because there was literally no space to do so (and there are a lot of components).

Around 4 years ago I posted my first keyboard to HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32507172). Its response blew me away and ultimately led to me quitting my job and making and selling keyboards full time. I’ve taken some of the feedback from that original post and incorporated it into Altar II (e.g. the detachable dial).

I’ll be around to answer any questions. Please let me know what you think, I’d love to get some feedback.

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archagon 1 day ago|
Great work! Have you, or do you intend to, write about the process of bringing this to fruition? Would love to learn more about how a polished bit of hardware like this is designed.
aemerson_ 1 day ago|
I have not written about the process but it is a great idea, I'd love to do that. An audio format might also be interesting.
rc5150 1 day ago||
there is nothing more satisfying than the thickness of the device being the same thickness of the charge cable terminal.

This looks dope, looking forward to ordering in the future.

aemerson_ 1 day ago|
Fitting the USB-C port into it was actually a real challenge. We also have custom made USB-C housing because all the off the shelf ones were thicker than the keyboard!
Scarbutt 1 day ago||
This looks great. Never liked the idea of having to add wrist rests to all these tall bulky mechanical keyboards.

Does it support the globe key without having to use karabiner?

aemerson_ 1 day ago|
It does! We do some firmware trickery to make the globe key behave just like the Magic Keyboard. Can you tell me what exactly you use it for? I just want to make sure we have your use case covered.
Scarbutt 1 day ago||
Mostly for these: https://imgur.com/a/c5ty1Ml
aemerson_ 1 day ago||
Ah very interesting. I will make sure these are included.
theodric 1 day ago||
Sent to my rich friend. He wants 3 in white!
johng 1 day ago||
Wow, beautiful. Both the site and the keyboard. I put a deposit down.

Edit: in reply to the person above because I keep getting a "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." error because I've made 2 posts in this thread apparently...

Anyway, it would be neat if in the future the M-Dial slot could be used for a fingerprint reader or something else. Swappable items in that slot.

aemerson_ 1 day ago|
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it. Glad you like the website too, I put a lot of effort into it.

If you have any questions I'd be very happy to answer them.

johng 1 day ago||
Honestly the price seems quite low for what you get (at $249) and what looks like might be a small batch production. I hope you can make a profit after everything is said and done at that price!
aemerson_ 1 day ago||
This price is only for people who reserve before we launch on Kickstarter. I agree it is good value but also I should point out the retail price will be $349 for anyone buying after we fulfil all the pre-orders.

Rest assured we are building a sustainable business that will be around for the long haul.

platevoltage 1 day ago||
This is very cool and it looks like a lot of effort went into it. Personally, I like the high profile clunky mechanical keyboard experience, so it's probably not for me, but I really hope this does well.

I also really hate Apples decision to put the FN key in the bottom left corner, but I understand following their layout. I always swap the ctrl and fn keys on my Apple devices, so I assume you could do the same thing here.

aaroninsf 1 day ago||
Lovely engineering; if you bring it to market(?) I suggest offering if not full customization a range of aesthetics.

Black/red is a hard no for me. Something fitting with the existing aesthetic (let's call it "Scandanavian milled", subtle frosting, white text) or warmer ("natural", off-white, orange LEDs) etc etc.

One other question: waterproof? I assume that's not possible. Would be a decision maker for me personally probably.

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ls-a 1 day ago|
Looks nice. However, 2 years and you still squished the arrow keys into the rest of the keyboard. Unacceptable "design" mate. You need to talk with your customers.