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Posted by apitman 3 hours ago

Qwen3.8 Max now ranked as the best overall model by agentic index(artificialanalysis.ai)
290 points | 173 commentspage 3
looksjjhg 2 hours ago|
That took what 2 years? I love how the chip ban made them more efficient
steve-atx-7600 2 hours ago||
curious about methodology. ive seen them post results for claude/codex when they only ran over benchmarks 3 times per model...
proxyscore 1 hour ago||
Does it matter, it's all non deterministic bs ware and deepseek is eating the Americans lunch
esafak 2 hours ago||
It is also the most expensive open source frontier model, per task; cf. Cost per Intelligence Index Task. If it is as good as the benchmarks indicate -- I'll never know because I see no reason to try it -- it is a positive indicator for Qwen and China.
brcmthrowaway 3 hours ago||
Could someone like Apple be playing the long game - Good Enough(tm) intelligence will eventually fit in our pocket and homes?
colingauvin 2 hours ago||
DS4 Flash Q2/Q4 mixed quant fits on a DGX Spark (a $4000 device which is not particularly unheard of expense for Apple customers), and is indistinguishable for me from Opus for my personal daily use/assistant benchmarks[0].

[0]https://humanparadox.org/local-vs-frontier-benchmarks-for-my... - note here I tested Q8 but have found no difference at lower quant.

kyxsc 1 hour ago|||
Apple is already doing this... they worked with Gemini to distill the model into a smaller one that fits on your phone. If you have iOS 27 Beta, you're already using this
LPisGood 2 hours ago||
Almost surely. Apple is extremely well positioned to take advantage of this over the next decade.
sirbor 3 hours ago||
Qwen is the way to go
atemerev 2 hours ago||
Well, that's the bad index then. It is barely usable in my opinion compared to other Chinese frontier models.
ramon156 1 hour ago|
which one of the other chinese frontier models is better?
dyauspitr 3 hours ago||
It doesn’t even show up in the raw intelligence index, so how could it possibly be the best?
delduca 3 hours ago||
Go China!
OsamaJaber 1 hour ago|
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