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Posted by cdrnsf 16 hours ago

USA Today Co., partners with Palantir to analyze audience data(www.niemanlab.org)
188 points | 74 commentspage 2
seydor 16 hours ago|
That's like eating dinner with a chainsaw
BitWiseVibe 15 hours ago||
Imagine paying a billion dollars for some contract software devs to add tracking cookies to your websites.
sfblah 14 hours ago||
There are a bunch of "emperor's new clothes" companies in the economy today. Palantir certainly seems like one of them.
etc-hosts 14 hours ago||
What does a newspaper need "actionable intelligence" for?
SoftTalker 14 hours ago||
To quote the CEO, "that allows us to engage users more effectively and monetize those relationships faster and at much greater value."

So they view their readers as something to be monetized. Not to be educated, not to be intellectually stimulated, not to have their questions answered, not to have their curiosity satisfied, not to provide them with anything a newspaper traditionally did. Nope, they are just a source of money. Get them to click, serve them an ad, sell their tracking data.

etc-hosts 14 hours ago||
I immediately thought they might be trying to de-anonymize article Commenters. Maybe I'm being too paranoid.
SoftTalker 14 hours ago||
Oh, I'm sure they are doing that too. Something else they think they can monetize (never mind that most of them are probably bots).
ChrisArchitect 15 hours ago||
Title could be closer to: USA Today Co. partners with Palantir to analyze audience data
imagetic 12 hours ago||
Wow. Bad move.
pmkary 13 hours ago||
Being awful is easy when you start, but think about how much they have worked, how hard they have worked, how much an anti-anti-christ they must have proved themselves to be, what Indiana Jones traps they must have escaped to reach Palantir's CEO from the lobby, how many kids they probably have sacrificed to Satan, to get a contract from one of the most prominent and established war crime houses in history, to do what Google Analytics could do with copy-pasting three lines of code and signing in with your own Google account — just so they could burn their already-gone reputation and keep being one of the worst ways to waste human labor, office space, servers, and dead trees. This takes work, and I must admit I'm in total awe. This is going way beyond the competition to prove something, even if that something is the stupidest thing the laws of physics can handle.
MikeNotThePope 15 hours ago||
"After 12 months of data analysis, we have arrived at the conclusion that our average customer was born before 1957 and thinks the country to going to hell in a hand basket."
micromacrofoot 14 hours ago||
Search traffic is failing for everyone because of AI, you don't need a billion dollars to figure that out.

Surprised we haven't yet seen paid advertisement interwoven into news article text in a way that feeds AI scrapers yet, wouldn't it be nice to drink a Coke right now?

There's no law that says you have to disclose advertisement to chatbots, so you could mark it up in a way that only humans see the disclosure and poison the bot to remind everyone that not only are we at war with Iran, but Coca-Cola is still America's favorite soft drink.

shawnwall 13 hours ago|
I believe we saw that this week - https://www.vincentschmalbach.com/time-serves-ai-bots-a-diff...
eth0up 16 hours ago||
Let's also remember: https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/15/can-ai-judge-journalism-a-...

Objection (objection.ai), which proposes to apply AI to “adjudicate the truth of journalism.” Pay $2,000 to contest allegations in a published story or various social media sources.

Catloafdev 15 hours ago|
How is this relevant?
eth0up 14 hours ago|||
It's a Thiel product, and the subject here is Palantir and media. Ideological adjacencies in media affairs seems relevant to me at such high levels of influence and power integrations.

But I must ask: in the anti eth0 club, or is this a genuine question?

If that is not a fair question, maybe show me evidence supporting a falsifiable general rule showing that all, or the majority of comments in HN threads contain strictly directly related comments -- or at least something showing most HN threads show non-directly related comments being challenged consistently, perhaps by yourself. This would help.

On a deeper level...

As a rogue journalist, I research many things. In this case, I have been researching both Palantir and Thiel, particularly products and things funded by Theil, particularly certain YouTube influencer channels.

My research shows certain contradictions of proclaimed values that very much interest me, such as Thiel Capital support of American Alchemy, which heavily promotes "neuro divergence" and an entire category of ideas that his partner, Alex Karp severely criticizes. Karp has made openly contemptuous claims on "neuro divergence" and drugs, while Thiel Capital is affiliated with American Alchemy, which is not modestly adamant on the subject, but hyper adamant, and promotes what some might call "conspiracy" related material.

However, when you have such individuals deeply connected with the Pentagon, and Law Enforcement, with verifiable influence, profiling abilities, and much more, this is something I take very seriously. As a 'journalist', I tend to see connections. I am sure you resent this, but despite an often rough approach, they have yet to fail in final synthesis. So that is what I am actually thinking, when I leave such posts.

BeetleB 13 hours ago||
> But I must ask: in the anti eth0 club, or is this a genuine question?

I don't see why you "must" ask such a question?

You're being way too defensive for such a simple question.

eth0up 13 hours ago||
I'm accused of being "way too defensive". For those who would consider this, tick "show dead" and review my comment history. Yes, you will find some slop, often a result of that implied above, but you will find quite a few that should not have been flagged, but were. There is a precedent here. I also get at least one downvote for every comment, however neutral, even on obscure posts with few views. That is close enough to a pattern to wonder. So I do.

Asking why a Thiel related media organization is relevant to a Thiel related media organization is odd, to me. It's not as if Thiel or Palantir aren't involved in many things. Am I supposed to voluntarily compartmentalize them?

This "simple" question has an easy answer. Sometimes questions with exceedingly simple answers do seem awkward.

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