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Posted by petercooper 19 hours ago

A year of fighting scrapers on my 1.5 million-page website(patronview.com)
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urrightimsorry 10 hours ago|
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lazerg 19 hours ago||
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Yiin 19 hours ago||
what gave you this idea?
pixl97 19 hours ago|||
Because the ubermensch on HN can detect AI text from 10 miles away with 100% accuracy... like that time they called documents from 2015 AI written.
conartist6 19 hours ago||
I'm just beyond thrilled that it's actually starting to be a public embarrassment to cough up a glob of AI text.
runjake 19 hours ago||||
Not the OP, but because it appears structured just like AI output?

(This isn't a condemnation. AI can often do a better job of representing thoughts than humans.)

Examples:

- The article organization

- The general language flow

- The bullet points with a bolded gist, a colon, and then elaboration (and bonus with details stats).

- The images are almost certainly AI generated. They look AI generated.

conartist6 18 hours ago|||
That's the thing: even if you don't use AI, if most of what you read is AI, soon this is what you'll sound like, just because it's so much of the training data your own brain's model has.

Using it slowly sucks the uniqueness out of you.

throwaway219450 18 hours ago||
Using AI to write blogs doesn’t bother me in principle, but I hate the prose that gets left in. Even if it’s not AI writing, being human doesn’t give you a pass for writing like a self-help guru. This sort of grammar is straight out of Claude:

> A human on a VPN sees one CAPTCHA and passes, but a headless browser fleet sees a wall.

I do wish we’d stop complaining about em dashes though, that’s lazy criticism. The sentence structure is far worse, and a big tell is subheadings that are all variants of “The <adjective> <noun phrase>”.

runjake 17 hours ago|||
Using a global agent rule with something like the following makes agent output much more tolerable for me:

"Use only ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English when communicating with me or writing documents, comments, and other communications intended for humans."

As a result, I've never seen Claude or Codex use it's weird terms like "load-bearing".

duskdozer 16 hours ago|||
Well, I definitely never saw nearly as many emdashes a few years ago. I didn't even realize it wasn't just a typeface quirk as I'd used hyphens a lot. I don't even know how to type an emdash on my devices and would have to copy/paste it from somewhere.

But yes your other points are absolutely right

throwaway219450 10 hours ago||
Oh yeah, emdashes are absolutely a tell, but I argue that they're nowhere near as abhorrent to read than the awkward phrasing that the frontier models like to use.
chrisandchris 19 hours ago||||
Take a look at the dashes. It's all there.

(i skimmed the whole post, there are none)

rhdunn 19 hours ago||
I knew it... Wuthering Heights was written by AI and Lucy Maud Montgomery, Edgar Allan Poe, et. al. were AI bots churning out content!

Or maybe -- just maybe -- using dashes isn't a sign of content being AI written, just a style it picked up from the training data.

splatter9859 18 hours ago||
As odd as this sounds, and as odd as the world gets, I still find a small comfort in the fact that there is enough stability in this world that I can count on one thing: someone always accusing a blog post on HN as being AI generated.

Never fails.

The OCD part of me can now go about my day.

askl 19 hours ago|||
I didn't read the article, but the AI illustrations were off-putting enough to close the tab.
behole 19 hours ago||
HN's blanket AI allegations are almost as annoying and tired as the thing they are rallying against. I think you are AI.
bookofjoe 19 hours ago|||
>HN's blanket AI allegations are almost as annoying and tired as the thing they are rallying against.

Best thing I've read on HN so far this year.

mysterydip 19 hours ago|||
That’s exactly what an AI prompted to reply to AI accusations would say!
pixl97 18 hours ago||
I'm not a bot, you're a bot!

So this is how AI wins, humans kill each other off because we might be bots and the bots inherit the earth.

jjgreen 18 hours ago||
Load-bearing
urrightimsorry 10 hours ago|
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