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Posted by eternalreturn 9 hours ago

Microsoft Edge is about to lock out older ad blockers, just like Chrome did(www.theverge.com)
138 points | 140 commentspage 3
ck2 2 hours ago|
all the forks in the world won't have widevine support

only Firefox is left which is fine by me

delduca 5 hours ago||
Droped Chromium browsers and been using Safari with Wipr2, so far the best experience
rambojohnson 3 hours ago||
who uses Edge anyway..
est 5 hours ago||
Why do browser vendors have such a control over browsers? Can anyone make a dll injection and bring back manifest v2 ?
Arnt 2 hours ago||
Sure, just change the source and build from source.

The reason is that V2 opened the door to some fairly nasty attacks. "This extension can read everything you enter on any form". There were some extensions that did exactly what you're thinking of.

I suspect that nobody will make a browser that lets a plugin do that any more. It's easy, but on closer reflection, would you do it?

terminalbraid 5 hours ago|||
They have control over what they distribute. Chromium and Firefox are both open source and people can (and should) use derivatives they find acceptable.
1718627440 3 hours ago||
People can create the world, but they do need a lot of time. A lot of money buys you time, so nobody 'poor' can keep up. That wouldn't be a problem for web UAs, if the standards wouldn't be 'improved' at the same path as well. It's kinda like proof of work, but for standard bodies and ownership of a system.
feverzsj 7 hours ago||
Basically every chromium based browser.
olivermuty 7 hours ago|
Brave as well?
eddythompson80 5 hours ago|||
Brave said they’ll keep some select MV2 extensions, though that remains to be seen. Especially if it causes too much maintenance headache with upstream chromium. Also it seems that Brave now distributes these select MV2 extensions. So I’m not sure if they have forked them, or if they just repackage upstream.
Saris 5 hours ago||||
I believe their adblock is built in to the browser and not an extension, so it can be more effective than the limited extensions.

Brave has its own downsides too, but at least the browser seems pretty effective at blocking ads and tracking junk.

feverzsj 6 hours ago|||
Brave's adblock isn't as powerful as ublock.
antonymoose 5 hours ago|||
In what sense? As a normie-tier user of Brave’s internal and blocker, it’s worked great. I never became a power-user of uBlock.
orwin 5 hours ago|||
Not saying this is it, but I never managed to block YouTube shorts with brave adblocker (in mobile), where I can do it with ublock. If you can do it, please explain, I promise I will try asap (I really dislike ff mobile UI).
briHass 4 hours ago||
On mobile (similar on Desktop), just go to Setting -> Shields and Privacy -> Content Filters.

In there are a bunch of Youtube related blockers (including Shorts), that I find work really well. Mobile Brave also lets you lock/screen off your phone while a YT video continues playing, which is a killer feature for listening to podcasts.

I found myself becoming addicted to YT Shorts, and Brave's filters totally solved my problem.

wild_pointer 5 hours ago|||
+1, works well enough
zamadatix 6 hours ago|||
It doesn't have to be so long as it still supports the above.
sombragris 4 hours ago||
The link is paywalled and the site requires me a subscription to keep reading TFA. This happens even after using the link with the Wayback Machine.
zb3 4 hours ago||
I use MV3 AdGuard and it blocks ads for me. I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation.. sure, MV3 is limited compared to firefox, but it's not like MV2 was that much better, no version ever supported rewriting request response.

MV3 DNR redirect is notably lame though, instead of replacing the response it generates a real redirect which breaks for example replacing the service worker response. But could MV2 webRequestBlocking replace the response? Well of course not.

sunaookami 4 hours ago||
Rules are limited (in syntax and number) and you can only ship updated rules with updated extensions (at least you can skip the queue if you only update rulesets but it's VERY annoying to do). It's also missing a bunch of features: https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as... (I see here that replacing response body is possible with Firefox only, is that your use-case?). MV2 was miles better.
zb3 4 hours ago||
Besides AdGuard I also have my own extension that loads userscripts from my own server (that uses the new userScripts API), so I think I only see my own point of view and the things that would potentially limit my solutions.

So far I'm able to block everything I want, but I mentioned replacing the response body because this is the only way I could modify or even inspect the service worker.. I think this vector could help circumventing ad blockers, but again - it would only matter if there were ads I'd not be able to block.

When it comes to distribution, firefox sucks because I can't even run my own extensions there, my distro doesn't package firefox developer edition so signatures are required. In contrast, Chrome let's me load unpacked extensions without any problems.

boredhedgehog 3 hours ago||
> I don't get the fuss about MV2 deprecation

Just observe this thread. It's a tribal moment, an occasion for a consumer to reassure himself that he has the right philosophy, uses the right product and rightly hates these other things that deserve to be hated. The fellow believers can upvote each other and downvote any empirical observation which threatens the faith.

TiredOfLife 5 hours ago||
It's ending manifest V2, not just adblockers.

uBlock Origin lite is V3 and is still supported

s0ss 5 hours ago|
Inferior alternative
gruez 5 hours ago|||
Serious question: which sites have you encountered where ublock lite doesn't do the job? Even tricky sites (eg. youtube) are defeated with scriptlets, not by intercepting network responses.
s0ss 5 hours ago||
I don’t have any data on that because chromium derivatives aren’t installed, haha. It’s not a matter of “does it work”. It’s philosophical.
novafunc 4 hours ago|||
I've used uBlock Origin Lite and have had no issues with blocking ads. The only downside I've seen is that I can't do "Block Elements" to hide non-ad annoying parts of sites.
gorhill 2 hours ago||
> can't do "Block Elements"

In uBO Lite, it's called "Create a custom filter" in the popup panel.

throwaway613746 3 hours ago|
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