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Posted by Raed667 11 hours ago

Two wheels, a few tradeoffs, and gas prices(blog.raed.dev)
22 points | 36 commentspage 2
thenewwazoo 8 hours ago|
Cars lie to us and tell us we’re safe, powerful, and in control. The air-conditioning fans murmur empty assurances and whisper, “Sleep, sleep.” Motorcycles tell us a more useful truth: we are small and exposed, and probably moving too fast for our own good, but that’s no reason not to enjoy every minute of the ride.

- Dave Karlotski, "Season of the Bike"

https://the751.com/1998/06/15/season-of-the-bike/

nradov 7 hours ago|
Cars aren't even lying. In a modern car I really am safe, powerful, and in control. And the air conditioner helps keep me alert.
decimalenough 5 hours ago||
Until you get T-boned at an intersection, or a semi drifts into your lane, etc.

At the end of the day, you can only control your own car, not the environment it's in.

nradov 2 hours ago||
Nah. Most of those collisions are preventable if you pay attention and drive defensively. You probably don't know much about driving but it's actually possible to control the environment in most circumstances.
ctippett 9 hours ago||
I've lugged my biking gear across two continents because I keep telling myself I'll get another bike, and when I do I'll need my gear!

Commuting to work in peak hour, zipping past all the gridlocked traffic on the motorway (filtering is/was legal) and then cresting over the Auckland harbour bridge on a sunny day... Absolute bliss.

Except after 15 years I'm less convinced I'll own another motorcycle. Maybe I'll settle for an electric scooter instead.

danans 8 hours ago|
> Commuting to work in peak hour, zipping past all the gridlocked traffic on the motorway (filtering is/was legal) and then cresting over the Auckland harbour bridge on a sunny day... Absolute bliss.

Former motorcycle commuter here. The risks while commuting in a motorcycle in urban traffic (at least in the US), are significantly higher than riding for pleasure. I found that untenable after a while and resorted to the bus/train, and saved motorcycling for the weekend.

Everyone's tolerance is different of course, but after a week of lane splitting commuting I didn't feel like riding the backroads. It took the joy out of it for me.

ctippett 1 hour ago||
I'm in total agreement with you. I was young and had a greater tolerance for risk than I do now.

I don't know what it's like in your city, but when I was riding my commute would be 20 minutes door-to-door versus driving/public transport that would easily take over an hour for the same journey. As someone who's perpetually late, that sort of time saving also skews your judgement of risk.

mperham 8 hours ago||
I retired from motorcycles a decade ago but still get my two wheel fix with the e-bikes I own. They make those 2km errands easy.
foco_tubi 8 hours ago||
If you think this guy sounds preachy now, wait ‘til he hears about bicycles.

I rode 100K on Friday, fueled entirely by Coca Cola and gummy bears. Zero direct fossil fuel consumption! It also took 5 hours.

ang_cire 7 hours ago|
I have bad news for you...

https://www.hejlfoundation.org/from-gas-tanks-to-gummy-bears...

foco_tubi 5 hours ago||
Guess I should’ve went for Fritos instead
drivingmenuts 7 hours ago||
I recently bought an e-bike for running errands and so on (I do not own a car). I got it put together, hefted it outside (it weighs rather more than I expected), fired it up and rode 10 yards.

It's a moped-style bicycle that rides like a motorcycle and I HAVE NEVER OPERATED A MOTORCYCLE. Bicycle, yes. Motorcycle, no.

I'm going to have to find a large grassy area to practice riding on before this is useful. If I had it to do over, I'd pick something that's more bicycle than motorcycle. But I don't, so I just have to make do with what I did get.

Feel free to call me an idiot.

Forge36 7 hours ago|
I love my e-bike. It sounds like you bought an electric dirt-bike. I'm not going to call you an idiot: the market is confusing and not well regulated, manufacturers are taking advantage of this. There have been some improvements with regulation to promote safety (both for you, as the unaware rider and for others). It's possible where you live it's not legal to take your new e-bike on the road without a motorcycle license OR on bike paths. Be safe, double check your local laws. If it's not legal: return it.
UncleEntity 7 hours ago|
My first motorcycle was fast enough to get out of the way of stupid drivers (and be fun) while my last one was so fast it still amazes me to this day that I'm still alive. Apparently it was amateur raced with all the things that entails, which is probably why I didn't die as it was so obnoxiously loud people knew there was a motorcycle around them so I couldn't really hide in their blind spots, not that I would ever do that because that's a quick way to get a free ride to the ER.

$2500 for a vehicle which could most likely top out around 200 mph probably wasn't the smartest purchasing decision I've ever made. The only smart thing I ever did was there was always something suitably wrong with it I never took it out into the desert to see what the real top speed was.

My Fiat 500 has the same size engine and keeps me out of trouble. And around the same MPG...