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Posted by slowin 13 hours ago

The UK's war on anonymity has come to America(www.effort.news)
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6r17 10 hours ago||
Fight this shit off. We do not need this. Digital Privacy has tools coming up - we are all loosing on this because of a few monkeys I wish some people had to courage to deal with. I'm honestly exhausted by this shit. Let all of it rot.
ColdStream 10 hours ago|
It is imbalance of power at play.

They can keep floating this stuff and we have to put in a thousand times as much energy to shoot it down. We get worn down quicker than they can. It only has to work once for them, we have to keep pushing back.

My very pessimistic take is one out of Taoism. If you wish for them to fail, let them grow. Eventually the weight of the whole system collapses itself, the question is just on what time frame.

The way out is to go through. I don't like this framing but it seems to be the most accurate.

iamnothere 9 hours ago||
You don’t even have to “let them” grow, they will do it regardless, as they hold the seats of power. But that doesn’t mean that silent acquiescence is the right path, either. Speaking up attracts like-minded allies.

It’s also a good idea to maintain your own private means of communication, as there will be some hard times ahead.

ColdStream 9 hours ago||
Pretty much. It is a narrow path between, pushing back and ensuring safety. It can be done but you have to be careful.
Havoc 12 hours ago||
The whole think of the children angle is so cursed. Used to push surveillance meanwhile actual harm against children goes ignored. See Epstein files and the grooming gangs in the UK

If it actually did anything to protect the children it wouldn’t be so objectionable

autoexec 11 hours ago||
> Used to push surveillance meanwhile actual harm against children goes ignored.

Worse, these laws will actually create new harms to children who will be forced to give their identity to websites and identity services that will exploit them and fail to protect that data.

inigyou 11 hours ago|||
What do you think about California AB1043?
newspaper1 12 hours ago||
Epstein is real, the “grooming gangs” are not, unless you’re talking about Jimmy Saville.
kraken_cult 12 hours ago|||
This is flagrantly untrue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...
andix 11 hours ago|||
First sentence: "From the late 1980s until 2013..."
thin_carapace 11 hours ago||||
so the grandparent commentor has broken UK law by knowingly sharing false information. over here officer, a thoughtcrime has taken place!
newspaper1 10 hours ago|||
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butterlesstoast 10 hours ago||
This is clearly an AI bot. Watch it automatically respond to my comment.
newspaper1 10 hours ago||
You’re breaking site guidelines and you also did not post proof.
metalcrow 12 hours ago||||
I think OP is referring to stuff like the Rupert Lowe’s Rape Gang Inquiry
willmadden 11 hours ago|||
What about it?
iioiio 11 hours ago|||
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ebbi 12 hours ago||||
TBF they are real, but are they isolated to one ethnic group? No. Are the victims as numerous as Rupert Lowe's report makes it out to be? No.
oatmeal1 10 hours ago||
I haven't seen any claim that it was isolated to one ethnic group. I have only seen the claim that it was disproportionately immigrants of Pakistani background.
walrus01 11 hours ago|||
Epstein and grooming gangs are both real. Not that the whole "grooming gangs" problem hasn't been vastly amplified and turned into a repeated media talking point by a bunch of the extreme right wing in the UK, however. There's plenty of domestic non south asian pedos and molestors there too.
iioiio 11 hours ago||
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jaimex2 10 hours ago||
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
missedthecue 9 hours ago||
The funny thing about this quote in context was that Ben Franklin was using it to argue for MORE state power, not less. Remember, Ben was the guy that would steal private letters and publish them in his newspaper.
inigyou 3 hours ago||
applies no matter what words you substitute for Liberty and Safety.
Pxtl 10 hours ago||
Honestly I wouldn't be so cranky about this if it were proper government based ID instead of creepy Thiel companies doing it.

And if it was mostly about posting content anonymously instead of even reading these sites.

wmf 10 hours ago|
Yeah, the US is getting the worst version. We can't have federal digital ID because "mark of the beast" but you have to show ID to watch porn so a bunch of private ID verification gatekeepers have shown up.
mrcwinn 10 hours ago||
We should copy nothing from the UK on topics of technology, privacy or air conditioning.
podocarp 8 hours ago||
> Talk shit about China and communism and dictators and shit > Proceed to do the same things

Today's America in a nutshell

StanislavPetrov 8 hours ago|
I can't be the only one who will never comply with these draconian, anti-privacy laws, nor the only one with the technical prowess to bypass them. Never used social media (unless you count HN as social media, which is a stretch), so perhaps it won't be as great a loss as it will be to many. I have no doubt there are many like-minded people (in number if not in population %) that feel the same, and will undoubtedly repopulate newsgroups and message boards that are not subject to this authoritarian nonsense.
inigyou 3 hours ago|
You won't make your website respect the child safety header?

Does it already have porn on it or Wil you add a bunch to become noncompliant?

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