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Posted by wiradikusuma 4 days ago

Asus Bike Booster(www.asus.com)
367 points | 233 commentspage 2
veunes 2 hours ago|
I kind of like this. Not because it's necessarily the best way to electrify a bike, but because it's removable enough that your bike can still just be... a bike
dorte 1 hour ago|
It looks like you have to remove your rear fender thought. I would rather just use the rye bread engine a little more, than not being able to bike on wet roads (or being sprayed with mud).
low_tech_punk 6 hours ago||
It is decoupled from drivetrain. So, without torque sensor, how does it know when the rider wants to speed up vs. slow down?
analog31 6 hours ago|
It says it has a wireless cadence sensor. With that said, torque sensors were an improvement over cadence sensors.

To elaborate a bit, friends of mine have had bikes with both cadence and torque sensors. And I've tried their bikes out. Agreeing with one friend, the bike with the cadence sensor seems to decide how fast it wants to go.

The bike with the torque sensor behaves a lot more like what you're used to from riding a conventional bike. After all, the control input to a conventional bike is torque.

Toutouxc 2 hours ago|||
> the bike with the cadence sensor seems to decide how fast it wants to go

Well yes, because there’s no other input. It’s an on/off switch, the bike just knows that you’re pedaling. Usually there are multiple power levels you can switch between with a button, and those decide roughly how much of a push you get from the motor, but the power curves are all “hardcoded”. It doesn’t feel great for active riding, but it’s adequate for commuter bikes. Torque sensors are actually kind of expensive on their own.

Perseids 2 hours ago|||
> The bike with the torque sensor behaves a lot more like what you're used to from riding a conventional bike

I agree, but would like to point out that sometimes this might not be what you want. I had a bike with a front motor and a cadence sensor that I used for my commute for a few years, and was very happy with the motor just pulling me along while I lazily pushed the pedals with ~zero torque, barely enough to let the bike know I'm there. Basically like pressing a throttle. If all you want is to get from A to B comfortably, I've found this to be superior to a torque sensor, and it was also dirt cheap.

Zambyte 16 minutes ago||
With a torque sensor you can just raise the assist level and drop your gear to get the same effect, no? Seems like a torque sensor would be the best of both worlds.
PeterStuer 2 hours ago||
I remember those from 50 years ago. Back then it was a small petrol engine typically mounted on the front tyre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9loSoleX
Someone 3 hours ago||
Reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9loSoleX:

*“VéloSoleX is a moped, or motorised bicycle, usually just referred to as 'Solex', […] originally created during World War II and mass-produced between 1946 and 1988, came in various iterations, while keeping the same concept of a motor with a roller resting on the front wheel of a bicycle”*

This powers the back wheel, though. I think that’s better for propulsion but it seems you’re giving up carrying stuff or a child on the back of the bicycle. Can’t even have a rack there with this contraption.

Lwrless 5 hours ago||
I have to say, this looks really well designed and easy to use, I want one! But why Asus? I really want to know how they landed on this.
mswphd 5 hours ago||
ASUS does make power banks, and the vast majority of the cost of any ebike is in the battery.
JsonDemWitOster 3 hours ago||
> I really want to know how they landed on this.

RAM prices.

kiddico 9 hours ago||
That might be the easiest ebike retrofit/conversion I've ever seen. I have concerns about the grip in wet conditions but this looks like a great way to get that ebike I've wanted and not put my perfectly good frame to waste.
fwipsy 9 hours ago||
Similar friction drives have existed for a while. The battery is very small compared to a regular ebike (typically they start at about 300wh.) Also, IIRC the friction drive is not very efficient.
itomato 9 hours ago|||
Like when wet. Or icy or both.
davidw 8 hours ago||
I think the number of people who want to use something like this when it's icy out is pretty small. You'd want studded tires, for instance... and it's generally those who are really committed who ride in those conditions. This looks more like 'dipping a toe in the eBike water'.
SoftTalker 8 hours ago||
Looks more like a "hill assist device" to me.
cowsandmilk 8 hours ago|||
This one is 158 Wh
fwipsy 7 hours ago||
I saw. Most entry-level ebikes have at least 10ah * 36v batteries; a few lightweight models have 7ah. So this has about half the battery capacity of the cheapest ebikes.
kelnos 7 hours ago||
Given the size of it and the significantly less weight it adds to the bicycle, I'd say half capacity is pretty fantastic.

(Of course, "capacity" is misleading, as this will be less efficient than a real e-bike.)

loeg 8 hours ago|||
Get a Bafang kit or a hub motor replacement rear wheel instead. At least those systems work well.
Pxtl 8 hours ago||
I mean I agree but those aren't zero-skill install like this.
loeg 6 hours ago||
Bafang isn't, sure, but a hub motor is relatively easy. I guess hub front motor is even easier than hub rear.
mongol 8 hours ago|||
Have a look at Bafang or Tongsheng kits
Zigurd 7 hours ago||
A couple other people here mentioned that theft is an issue. That's yet another reason why folding bikes seemed like the best use case for this. Not as good as a folding bike that's made for being an E bike, but if you've already got a good folding bike and a bit more zip on your commute is what you need, this seems like a interesting product.
boesboes 1 hour ago||
This might be the dumbest thing I've seen this.. well.. week tbh. Don't you guys have mud guards?
angry_octet 8 hours ago||
If I'm carrying around a giant battery I ought to be able to charge my devices from it, but it is silent on that front.

The design doesn't work if you have a mud guard or pannier rack. Also unclear how easily it is detached. Do I have to take it off everytime to prevent casual thievery? How do I take it off to charge inside? Does it have anti-theft bricking?

I'm struggling to understand who the target market is.

rahimnathwani 8 hours ago|
"How do I take it off to charge inside?"

It has a removable battery so it seems the mechanism is designed to be left on the bike.

angry_octet 4 hours ago||
And if I go into a shop am I compelled to remove the battery, or is it locked? Is there a key or an app to release the battery?
YPPH 4 hours ago|
Hah, my dad made something like this for me when I was a kid using a weed eater engine, with a makeshift lever as a clutch to engage/disengage it. This looks about as makeshift, I wouldn't trust it for serious use.
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