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Posted by layer8 6 hours ago

Delphi 13 Community Edition Is Now Available(blogs.embarcadero.com)
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kopirgan 2 hours ago|
Borland C++ builder came with a nice manual book that explained object oriented programming from basic concepts. Lol those were the days..
uticus 5 hours ago||
I'm an outsider, although I've heard cool things about Delphi. So, trying to find examples of what this looks like, I was naturally interested in the "Cool Apps" section. But my biggest surprise was that Beyond Compare was listed in there. I see that thing in a lot of Windows .NET shops, I always figured it was .NET-based (I guess I confused association with dependency?)

https://blogs.embarcadero.com/beyond-compare/

pjmlp 5 hours ago||
In Germany, Delphi columns are still rather common on the .NET developers magazine.
afarah1 4 hours ago||
>the .NET developers magazine.

Surely it's online? Such magazine still being in issue would be equally surprising to me.

pjmlp 4 hours ago||
Nope, here you can still buy developers magazines.

Entwickler, .NET, Java aktuelle, Maker, Retrogammer can still be found on newstands, what happens is that not all of them have all magazines available.

You can get them delivered to your address anyway.

Here, https://www.presseplus.de/Dotnetpro-Abo

kogus 3 hours ago|||
I have used Beyond Compare for 20 years, and as far as I know, it has always been and still is written in Delphi. Quest Software, maker of TOAD for Oracle was also a big Delphi shop for many years. Not sure if they still are.
throw-the-towel 5 hours ago||
I'm not sure if it still does, but Delphi definitely used to support .NET.
pjmlp 5 hours ago||
Delphi.NET was a side project so to speak, and was mostly done under contract by RemObjects, which kept selling their compiler when Embarcadero decided to focus on native only.

https://www.remobjects.com

OCTAGRAM 4 hours ago||
Delphi.NET was so much central project that 8 only supported .NET. Nothing else was ever needed as it seemed. Delphi.NET was 8, 2005, 2006 and 2007, then dropped. It was hosted in common RAD IDE and language was close match.

Delphi Prism was bundled somewhere between 2009 and XE2, a 3rd party product, hosted in Visual Studio IDE and language was resembling, but not quite. Enough divergence to not make it possible sharing source text with native Delphi.

vintagedave 3 hours ago|||
(I work at RemObjects) - we've been working hard on reducing convergence recently, that is, still supporting our own Oxygene Pascal syntax but also accepting other variants of Pascal. We want it to be possible for someone to have a common source file as you suggest, much the same as you can with Delphi and FPC. It is possible today; we are working on the really esoteric syntax.

Our 'Delphi Island' support also allows linking to BPLs.

And we have our own IDE (for multiple platforms), as well as living inside VS.

throw-the-towel 58 minutes ago|||
OTOH Delphi 8 flopped so hard that the next version brought back Win32 support.
karteum 4 hours ago||
Still no Linux support...
weli 3 hours ago|
You can compile to Linux targets though
felixgallo 4 hours ago||
Unfortunately, if you intend on using Delphi, that will be $1200 plus $399 a year for the basic commercial license, and if you also intend on using databases, that will be $4600 plus $1399 a year. Or, you could use .NET, which is $0, and overwhelmingly better supported at this point.

Embarcadero is milking a shrinking captive market, VMWare style. It makes perfect financial sense given the asset, but it's unfortunate for those of us with happy memories of Delphi 6 and 7.

OCTAGRAM 4 hours ago||
One can legally use Community Edition until income hits some limit. Paid edition can be bought and just used without updates.

> use .NET, which is $0

But tracing garbage collection needs 5x more available RAM than used RAM. Native conservative applications introduce memory fragmentation, estimated as 2:1 available:used. That gives 2.5x smaller memory footprint of native apps, and RAM prices matter lately.

leni536 3 hours ago||
That limit is $5000 revenue per year. And this is not scoped down to "$5000 revenue from Delphi projects." It's basically student-only.
adornKey 3 hours ago||
You don't have to use their premium database components. Just use something else as client-library.

I'm also not a fan of yearly payments. But with a $1200 license you usually get access to all old versions - including Delphi 7. After Delphi 6/7 at least Version 11/12 were usable for 64-bit. So I think at least once every other decade it is ok to get a usable 64-bit version of Delphi.

kvemkon 4 hours ago||
Delphi - almost effortless programming memories.

> ... native Delphi apps for Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android.

In early 2000s there was Borland Kylix for Linux. Thus today (25 years later), if I'd use Object Pascal, then with Lazarus.

pjmlp 5 hours ago||
Also Ekon 2026 is already announced with the respective program,

https://entwickler-konferenz.de/en/

zerr 4 hours ago||
C++Builder as well? Any updates regarding cross-platform support?
pjmlp 4 hours ago|
Cross platform support exists but works by having Windows as the main development environment than then cross compiling into the varios platforms.

Yes there is a community version for C++ Builder as well.

Yuioup 4 hours ago|
Delphi is dead. Nothing to see here. Move along.
kogus 3 hours ago|
Nuh-uh. http://www.isdelphidead.com/