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Posted by florianherrengt 8 hours ago

AI is removing the middle class of software engineering?(blog.florianherrengt.com)
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dupflo 5 hours ago|
At the same time, it also brings very low level "vibecoder" to the pool
florianherrengt 5 hours ago|
I wrote about this before. I don't think the vibecoders will have a job for a long time. At best, it will be minimum wage.

See "AI Won't Take Your Job, Someone Using AI Will" > There's no lucrative middle ground where 'AI whispering' is a high-value skill.

https://blog.florianherrengt.com/vibe-coder-career-path.html

dupflo 4 hours ago||
2026 is starting to slow time there emergency and 2027 will clean. Unfortunately they still contribute to overwhelm socials media with there content.

Nice first name btw

parkersweb 5 hours ago||
I have a theory that Claude regresses to complexity. It’s trained to mimic existing patterns - so the smallest grain of over-engineering or spaghetti-code is like a mind-virus, gradually infecting all future output and self-amplifying until all is spaghetti.
throwitaway222 6 hours ago||
Probably a good thing, we need more people building major mega projects like the Line. Potentially we need AI to mass produce architecture and scale up and out city/county building departments to open the gates to massive buildings in the United States.
danielovichdk 5 hours ago||
"You can't afford bad engineers anymore"

You never could.

florianherrengt 5 hours ago|
Agreed. But it’s the difference between crashing at 30 km/h (19 mph) and crashing at 200 km/h (124 mph).

AI massively increases the speed and scale at which bad engineers can do damage while fixing it is still slow, difficult work.

v-mdev 6 hours ago||
Great idea to include a link to Hacker News on your blog!
timedude 6 hours ago||
This is really well written. I deal with the exact same issues almost daily. Senior engineers who want to guard quality are becoming a bottleneck.
florianherrengt 5 hours ago|
If the people trying to understand the changes and guard quality are now considered the bottleneck, the answer isn’t that the reviewers need to move faster.
timedude 5 hours ago||
I wasn't saying that either
florianherrengt 1 hour ago||
Then I’m not sure what you mean by calling them a bottleneck.

If the limiting factor is the rate at which experienced engineers can understand and validate changes, you have three options: generate less, find a genuinely better way to validate or accept lower quality.

GrayHerring 5 hours ago||
More like AI is exposing bad engineers faster than it would've been possible earlier. Previously they would simply outsource all their thinking to someone else, now they see massive progress with AI and delude themselves into wishful competence.
dmezzetti 4 hours ago||
As an open source maintainer, I can chime in on this.

With TxtAI, I've seen a large uptick in PRs (https://github.com/neuml/txtai/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+s...). While the extreme verbosity of Claude messages and commits is very annoying (plus the constant defending itself on why it's a bug), I do think it's a positive that more people are enabled.

It does require reviewing the PRs. Some can be tricky just like a human. For example I did merge this PR (https://github.com/neuml/txtai/pull/1136) and it would have completely broke search. But a human could also do that.

From an open source standpoint, I say the more the better. You just have to be willing to do the work to review and no not just having AI agents to review what the AI agents are submitting. There still needs to be a human in the loop, if you care about quality.

waffletower 5 hours ago||
While there are bad engineers, I imagine that teams that have evolved alongside AI and have maintained their size and consistency without adjustment may have structural issues. I would argue that team size counts ought to be smaller now than before Claude. Unfortunately this idea could feed an AI-induced layoff trend, but it could instead lead to product diversification instead.
1294876 6 hours ago|
"There are also people who essentially make it harder for everyone else. And now anyone can produce more code in a day than they used to in a year."

That is the "democratization" that AI shills speak of:

https://xcancel.com/dhh/status/2087538364580835804#m

Once a CEO with a snowboard-optimized brain gave you a board seat, there is no way back.

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