Posted by pella 16 hours ago
JieTang (Founder of Z.ai): It won't take that long
Nice to see a commit to open weights straight off the bat
And that is definitely not something I'd like to do with a bot.
Kimi and QWEN are now moving on to a restricted-usage license, which, although is still better than the proprietary American models, is a step back from the open source Chinese LLM culture.
Let those companies with thousands of GPU making millions pay. They should.
GLM model weights have been released under MIT in the past, and there's no indication that this might change this time around.
"Open Source: We will release the weights in two weeks after launch, once safety evaluation and hardening are complete."
(In my case "it"=Fable; I assume Opus is similar.)
Man. That would make a lot of sense indeed.
It seems to speak in a shorthand that only it understands, referring back to conversations I never had with it (stuff like "your instinct was right"), and using unusual words for common concepts. That was before the watermarks were announced, but that doesn't necessarily mean they weren't there before the announcement. I don't know what the cause is, but I've begun to have to ask it for explanations a lot more often, and I hate asking it for explanations because it does go on. All models go on, but Claude models are a class of their own in terms of verbosity and purple prose.
It just feels like they're not focused on the models lately, and instead on whatever kind of lobbying and propaganda they're up to. Meanwhile, a handful of much smaller Chinese companies are focused on nothing but the models and are about to lap the US makers while they fart around.
So either I am seeing patterns in noise, or something changed about the model, the harness, the servers or the universe.
this is from claude, turn it into English for me would you?
"""
[claude's tortuous prose]
"""
No amount of asking it to answer me in a straight-forward manner, to be succinct, to not use phrases like "honest caveat", "crux", "load-bearing", "blocker", etc ever sticks for more than a few turns … coupled with the fact that it can ignore instructions and do its own thing and then what I can only describe as lie about it using Claude can be an exercise in frustration. Kimi and GLM talk to me like a human, Luna/Terra/Sol are much better in that respect also, and Grok is marvelously structured and bullet-pointy in its explanations but unfortunately it is not as strong …A lot of the total cost of AI is fixing its "truth shaped errors", particularly in the presence of models that are very "gaslighty" when corrected.
GLM-5.2 is really the only model I've spent much time using that I didn't fatigue from being regularly lied to by the model, but that might be partially luck.