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Posted by dmitrygr 2 days ago

RISC-V: They Should Have Known Better(dmitry.gr)
339 points | 381 commentspage 5
thayne 17 hours ago|
If only ISAs weren't protected (or protectable) by patents.
nullc 17 hours ago||
I wonder how many of the obvious design shortcomings in RISC-V are from IPR avoidance / making IPR problematic parts optional.
g8oz 17 hours ago||
When writing a spec, every single thing you make optional, you split the possible implementations into two incompatible groups. Do this enough times and you end up with your spec being meaningless.

I felt that.

erichocean 21 hours ago||
What I like about RISC-V is not the ISA per se, but the ecosystem that has developed around it, particularly Chisel and CIRCT.

Specific choices for instruction encoding is less interesting, especially in the age of AI.

phendrenad2 1 day ago||
Things are generally defined by the neccessities that led to their creation. x86 was designed for home PCs and has been forced to evolve with PC technology. ARM was designed to take advantage of RISC architecture, and were forced to evolve with the mobile industry. What was RISC-V invented for, and what external forces have acted on it since then?
bhewes 21 hours ago||
Ah rants from a non designer. So Patterson and crew, don't know what they are doing? Yeah hard pass.
brcmthrowaway 1 day ago||
What happened to the Rivos accelerator cores?
tsukikage 1 day ago||
Meta acquired Rivos last year.
IshKebab 1 day ago||
They got bought by Meta who then fired half of them.
andrekandre 1 day ago||

  > fired half of them
always a winning strategy...
brcmthrowaway 1 day ago||
Thanosbook
brcmthrowaway 1 day ago||
It's clear that RISC-V started as an academic exercise (albeit from a group with esteemed credentials) and they had to bolt on these hacks to make it work in industry.

Sad.

bigyabai 16 hours ago|
ARM was also rooted in an academic exercise. A lot of the drawbacks for modern ARM PC platforms stem from the aversion to actually advanced features like SVE/SVE2 and UEFI.

It's sad, but it was also wildly successful. RISC-V has already replaced ARM in highly-custom embedded spaces like Nvidia's GPU controllers, and it likely won't stop unless ARM finally changes their tune vis-a-vis licensing.

fidotron 51 minutes ago||
> ARM was also rooted in an academic exercise.

Where do people get ideas like this from? Just nonsense.

esseba-dev 18 hours ago||
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nc55g3g 1 day ago|
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