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Posted by gmays 5 hours ago

When Genius Fails: The Intellectual Arrogance of the AI Labs(weightythoughts.com)
160 points | 170 commentspage 3
jdw64 4 hours ago|
Everyone has some sort of category error to an extent. But more than that, the part about safety guardrails really resonates with my experience. I inevitably have to go down to the low-level to inspect memory, but because of safety issues, I can barely use Codex as it keeps prompting me for 'trusted access.' AI is actually really good at catching bugs, so I'd love to use it, but it does this every single time...
Supermancho 4 hours ago|
> I can barely use Codex as it keeps prompting me for 'trusted access.

If you run it in unsafe mode, it won't prompt. The problem is that you would probably want to run it in a container and that's annoying.

adastra22 4 hours ago||
He’s talking about safety guardrails where the model shuts off.
johnnyApplePRNG 4 hours ago||
This article is being downvote-brigaded HARD wherever it gets posted on the internet right now.

Interesting.

john_strinlai 3 hours ago||
not here (no downvotes for posts on HN), and i dont think it's particularly interesting either.

anti-ai posts get downvoted by pro-ai people/bots. pro-ai posts get downvoted by anti-ai people/bots. (i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other, but that's just a guess). in any case, the world keeps spinning.

customguy 3 hours ago||
anti-ai-bots? people who dislike LLM et al use LLM to repeat what is public opinion anyway? like, where?
john_strinlai 3 hours ago||
downvoting a post doesn't require an LLM. an old-fashioned bot can do it just fine.

and there can be several motivations for it (e.g. downvoting a competition's posts, someone upset with how much pro-ai stuff there is on their favorite subreddit, etc.)

customguy 2 hours ago||
Frankly, I need to apologise because I must have totally skipped the "i suspect one of these teams has more bots than the other".

And agree that manual downvotes (or comments) are not always in good faith either (though I'd argue they're intrinsically still better than bot votes, but not as if you claimed differently :)

dgellow 4 hours ago||
HN doesn’t have downvotes for posts…
johnnyApplePRNG 2 hours ago|||
Right, we have flags. And this post has been flagged off the front page of HN even with 150 upvotes in less than 2 hours...
tavavex 1 hour ago||
It doesn't appear flagged to me.

Remember that HN downranks posts with certain ratios of comments to upvotes, or with a certain level of activity - I'm not sure exactly how it works - to prevent flamewars. Whether this is a good measure is up to debate, but all articles get the same treatment if they hit these thresholds.

stronglikedan 3 hours ago|||
So HN isn't included in the "wherever it gets posted on the internet" since it's implied that "wherever" needs downvote capabilities. Doesn't make the sentence any less true - you just read too much into it.
GMoromisato 4 hours ago|
Are there any interesting predictions in this post that I need to pay attention to? Or is this just venting at how "annoying" tech bros are?

I just skimmed it, so I'm hoping someone with more fortitude can summarize.

mrhottakes 3 hours ago||
It's actually pretty easy to read. I wasn't sure how to at first, but I asked my hyperswarm of Claude Mythos bots, and after several hours they recommended I use my eyes to look at the words, and then my brain could read them. As an AI skeptic I wasn't so sure, but it indeed worked.
GMoromisato 2 hours ago||
I was just venting (ironic, I know).

May I ask, did you get anything out of it? I felt I wasted my time reading it, but that's what makes me think I'm missing something.

ACCount37 4 hours ago||
Chuck it into an LLM lmao.
GMoromisato 3 hours ago||
Sorry, I was just venting.