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Posted by mlenhard 8 hours ago

The AI Credit Resale Economy(vectoral.com)
191 points | 70 commentspage 3
zuzululu 5 hours ago|
man seems like this entire thread invited a bunch of ads for exactly the thing talked about in the article

can't they detect if someone is reselling their tokens like this ? doesn't seem too hard

bix6 7 hours ago||
> CREDITS FROM YC STARTUP SCHOOL

Join YC, get free shit from the network, profit. Nice.

andy99 6 hours ago||
As a bonus, you’ve got a story for the “tell me about a time you hacked a non computer system” question on the YC application
ValentineC 2 hours ago||
Reselling something one gets for free doesn't sound like a very clever hack.
notpushkin 7 hours ago|||
> CREDITS FROM YC STARTUP SCHOOL

Is that still a thing? I’ve thought they’ve discontinued the deals section. (There are a lot of other ways to get a startup grant, of course.)

pocksuppet 7 hours ago||
What will you pitch to YC to get accepted?
peter_d_sherman 6 hours ago||
So let's see, we have the following factors in play:

1) Capitalism - Adam Smith, John Maynard Keynes (Keynesian Economics), etc., etc. in most places in the world...

2) Huge validated existing international market...

3) Multi-jurisdictional World... laws/statutory codes applicable to businesses in specific circumstances in one place may not be applicable to businesses in specific circumstances in another...

4) AI Tokens are a commodity; i.e., there is no chokepoint or monopoly controlled by one AI company in one jurisdiction, i.e., if one AI company makes rules unacceptable to a token consumer, that consumer can simply switch providers to another provider in another jurisdiction somewhere else in the world.

5) Tokens can be bought, sold, and resold at profit just like any other good or service.

6) Tokens can be bought from anywhere in the world and sold to anywhere in the world. Easily.

7) Tokens are a digital good, easy to scale, and do not require supply chains, lead times, labor, manufacturing, warehousing, shipping, going through geographic chokepoints, customs, etc., etc. -- all of the things that manufactured goods do.

8) Many people around the world want to make money or make more money... i.e., "economic incentive" (aka Capitalism's "profit motive")...

Well... add all of those together and what do you get?

You get buy/sell/trade forums/auctions/individuals/brokers/businesspeople -- around that market...

Just like you get those same things around every other market.

In this large multi-jurisdictional world, if one government makes all of that illegal in their country, then another government is going to be happily collecting all of the taxes from making all of that legal, in theirs!

If a given government makes trade illegal -- then they correspondingly lose the tax revenue...

Taxes and trade are intricately, intricately intertwined...

Could this business model be used for money laundering or other illegal activities?

Yes -- but any other business model could as well!

And, on the flip side, this business model could be accomplished legally/lawfully/morally/ethically -- just like any other business where there is an actual underlying value being exchanged.

Because, AI Tokens, if legally/lawfully/morally/ethically traded, do have underlying value...

In conclusion, at this point in time, I am neither for this business model nor against it...

But I think it'll be highly interesting to watch this space for the next couple of years, to see what happens, to see who does what, to see what plays out on the legal front, on the government front (foreign + domestic), on the media front, and on the technology front surrounding it...

xyst 5 hours ago||
When "token futures contracts", start selling. Then the bubble is about to burst.
quickthrowman 2 hours ago|
CME is launching GPU compute futures in October: https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/energy/power/compute-future...
imnotr0b0t 3 hours ago||
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fg137 7 hours ago|
These are amateurs compared to what's happening in China.
herpdyderp 7 hours ago|
Explain please?
tclancy 7 hours ago||
They built this wall …