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Posted by nichochar 3 days ago

Being ambitious and being a dad(nicholascharriere.com)
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zkmon 11 hours ago|
The so called human progress and advanced lifestyle made the simple and natural things such as having kids an adventure.

Where did the "progress" go wrong? Why did it take us backwards in the very basic goals of human life and why is it still called progress?

koliber 11 hours ago|
I don't know if progress made it more hard to spend time with kids, on average.

In older generations, men spent relatively little time with little kids. I don't know if it was social convention or lack of time. Either way, it seems that now a lot more dads are spending time with kids than 2 generations earlier.

I agree that it is hard, but I would not paint a bleak picture.

thorin 9 hours ago||
It was both, however where I lived, a few years before fathers would get up at 6am and go and work down a mine all day, or a shipyard or factory. They might get home at 6pm but after dinner they'd quickly go for a pint or go fishing or go to the football. Women often didn't work, or worked part-time so they could take the kids to school so saw a lot more of the kids and managed the household more.

Now women have the freedom to work, so both sexes can choose to avoid seeing their children if they want to. Bleak indeed.

koliber 9 hours ago||
> can choose to avoid seeing their children if they want to

The choice is there. It's sad how many people choose to not spend time with kids. But the fact that more people have this choice now than they did in the past makes me conclude that it is not as bleak.

rad_val 19 hours ago||
The weird thing is how most of the comments here are from dads saying it's hard but worth it in various ways. I've been scrolling for a while and failed to find an alternative point of view.
alansaber 15 hours ago||
I guess HN users like their kids. Maybe enough time spent on software increases the relative percieved value of hardware.
avadodin 10 hours ago||
It is not hard at all but worth it in many ways, then.

Literally:

> 1. birds & bees

> 2. time

> 3. ???(more time)

> 4. legacy

throwaway2037 20 hours ago||
This essay feels like the 2010s when feminists were debating if it were possible as a women to "have it all": successful/satisfying career, family, and personal life.
pedrofromri 6 hours ago||
I love reading content like this. It makes me feel sane in very insane times.
nichochar 3 hours ago|
my read is that PG is one of the lucky people who was very successful before kids, so he could just put YC in self-driving mode by handing off to the next generation and his life's work still feels meaningful.

I think it's very different if you have not achieved your life's work yet.

hahahaa 20 hours ago||
I wonder if the solution is simply to focus and effectively use resources so you can be effective and ambitious in a reasonable number of hours. Which is fine for 99.99%. Only if you are at the helm of discovering a revolution in physics or changing the world in some other way then go all in when you have kids. Which today is rare since team work makes the dream work way more. Of course there is greed. If you are greedy that is a different thing.
breezybottom 20 hours ago|
Solution to what?
hahahaa 19 hours ago||
Regret
arunaugustine 16 hours ago||
Then again don't forget being ambitious enough to be an ambitious founder, ambitious dad and an ambitious husband/wife/partner. And then being healthy enough to have energy to do all three. I keep thinking if I divide 24 hrs by 4, that would be the optimal time allocation to all 4 endeavors, but that's naive.
mym1990 18 hours ago||
“All the people I admire most are builders.”

If parenting and building are both truly aspirations, why not have people you admire that are great parents as well? I guess they don’t have many biographies for great moms and dads.

I admire the ambition. I wonder how many people out there are chasing both of these things, thinking they are being great parents and great builders, but are failing at one, or both.

crassus_ed 12 hours ago||
Love the article. One question; how do you unwind? I think it's achievable to spend enough time on both your career and your children, but consequently personal time will suffer.

How do you balance that?

nichochar 3 hours ago|
Healthy things. For me its riding a bike, which is magical because i) its solo activity so my brain meditates ii) its healthy but no shocks on my knees and body iii) its technology free, no notifications on a bike
syntaxing 19 hours ago||
I think the hardest part is how to define “waste”. Are you “wasting” your time if you go to a school event for your kids during the weekday? Is it a waste of time walking your kids to the bus? Is it a waste of time reading to my kids before they sleep? I argue it’s extremely hard to draw that line and a personal question for sure but being “efficient” is hard.
dizzydot 17 hours ago|
"I firmly believe in maximizing the quantity of time spent with them; there are no diminishing returns for them on that front."

This is something that should be self evident to any parent, no need to write or read a piece to establish that truism.

Time to close the laptop and spend time with the kids...

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