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Posted by plurby 1 day ago

GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released(blog.roboflow.com)
350 points | 164 commentspage 4
cdolan 23 hours ago|
Luna is pretty strong as well. been using it for projects the last two weeks and its strong
drak0n1c 16 hours ago||
Seed Turbo 2.1 is incredibly detailed in describing every physical feature. I use that one for vision tool calls through Venice API.
adroitboss 1 day ago||
I didn't expect Gemini 3.5 Flash to top basically every metric in this article.
SweetSoftPillow 1 day ago||
In my practice Gemini models are far better than anything on the market in terms of vision, also it's worth to mention that current Gemini flash is 3.7, so it got 2 updates since 3.5 which beat GPT-5.6 Sol in this comparison.
SkalskiP 21 hours ago|||
Hi! I’m the author of this blog. I wrote it 4 weeks ago, and it’s already a bit outdated. Gemini 3.7 Flash came out last week, and considering the price, it’s easily the best vision model right now: https://x.com/skalskip92/status/2088032652301304121?s=20
LollipopYakuza 1 day ago|||
Same. I scrolled back up to see if I read the title correctly. It's important to note that it is the best... OpenAI released. Not the best overall.
WarmWash 23 hours ago||
Gemini has long been the vision champion, but there aren't many benchmarks and coding is where all the hype is.

Demis had a pretty big interest in vision, more so than text, so I hope they don't lose that with all the recent shuffling.

wahid_seddiqi 21 hours ago||
Do you think we’re getting closer to models that actually understand what they’re seeing, or are they just getting really good at recognizing patterns?
Culonavirus 21 hours ago|
All I'm fine with for now is that I can almost exclusively communicate with Sol through collages and my scribblings (all kinds of web page / block screens with all kinds of arrows and text all over the place) This was not practically ppossible in 5.5 and a tragedy in 5.4. Not sure how much weight is codex uploading in higher res carrying here but it's great to work with.
criddell 23 hours ago||
Are any of these vision benchmarks binocular in order to introduce depth perception?

I keep waiting for these AI companies to assemble the parts into a great autonomous driving module.

comboy 1 day ago||
Does any popular NVR make a good use of LLMs (especially local models) getting decent at vision?
eks391 22 hours ago||
I've been using Reolink for years and been very satisfied with it.

The only quip is the default UI isn't very good. When changing that reaches the top of my priority list, I'll switch it since they don't force you into a walled garden. Plan is to run it through frigate into HomeAssistant and use a UI from them. I've never used frigate before though so it'll be a learning process if plug and play solutions aren't already available

logicallee 1 day ago||
I agree. It did very well on an extremely challenging task.

I asked it to recognize and draw the very faint reflection of what I was wearing, visible in only a tiny black part of a very brightly lit poster behind glass.

In addition, the poster itself also happened to contain similar clothing.

You can see the reference images and its output in my writeup here: https://medium.com/@rviragh/gpt-5-6-sol-very-good-image-reco...

While a human can focus on the reflection easily, this is an enormous challenge for a vision model. It's very impressive.

Razengan 1 day ago|
For the last 2 weeks I've been trying to get Codex to "outpaint" a wonderful image it generated as placeholder art for a level background.

After I increased the game's resolution, I asked it to increase the image's size while keeping the same scale and existing content, and gosh, it constantly keeps getting something wrong no matter what I tell it, even on Sol Max with the $100 Pro subscription.

An organically-grown meat-based pixel-artist could have recreated the image and more within 2-3 days, in exchange for food and shelter.

dev_hugepages 1 day ago||
I'm unsure why you're using an LLM to generate images. Don't we already have models (some made by the same company) that do this?
sscaryterry 1 day ago|||
> it constantly keeps getting something wrong no matter what I tell it

This 100%

thatcat 1 day ago||
did you try segmenting it first?
Razengan 23 hours ago||
At first I intended to create a tileset and asked it for several variations of what a hypothetical tilemap created from the planned tileset would look like.

The previews it generated were amazing but wouldn't really be possible as a grid-based tilemap, with lots of clusters and overlaps of elements of varying sizes.

So I just decided to use the preview as a static scrolling background, but it's been a pain to get it to add more content around the edges that still tiles with the existing image at the same scale.

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