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Posted by DeepLogin 16 hours ago

Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots(responsiblestatecraft.org)
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xg15 7 hours ago|
I mean, they have enough real think tanks, I'm surprised they need a fake one...
shevy-java 2 hours ago||
> The Hanover Institute’s reports — all of which are about Israel and Palestine — appear to be part of an Israeli effort to influence chatbots.

This already seems to be a wrong analysis in that it makes little sense to "influence" a chatbot. It makes more sense to influence humans, so perhaps the wording is just incorrect, but very clearly the aim is not to "influence" a chatbot per se. That just makes no sense at all.

The wording fake think tank is also strange, because it assumes that all other think tanks are "real". But this assessment can not be made, because not everyone has all information on all think tanks. It is a too simplistic assumption in how the world operates. I understand that if you have incomplete information, you need to infer, but this then leads to information that may be incorrect or incomplete. In turn if your analysis is based on incorrect information, it may lead to wrong conclusions.

pengaru 11 hours ago||
"fake think tank" sounds a bit redundant
Vegemeister 9 hours ago||
Indeed. This is a think tank whose publications are LLM-generated, but, like...

This is what a think tank is for.

A better headline would be "Israel fails to adequately paperwork their low-rent think tank".

tclancy 11 hours ago|||
Indeed! How would you tell the difference for sure?
philtar 10 hours ago||
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chews 9 hours ago||
No surf for the astroturf.
megous 54 minutes ago||
BTW, Israel's now pretty obvious genocidal acts against Palestinians are now finally clearly visible on Google maps:

https://earth.google.com/web/search/gaza/@31.28918718,34.255...

This is the city of 300k people that they erased along with the entire countryside (lot of the erasure happened outside of any fighting as reported by Israeli online news websites at the time).

And they did so right after getting order from ICJ to not do so and prevent any genocidal acts. So good luck for them not losing the genocide case. Massacred thousands of people in a week doing similar erasures in the north, where they prevented people from leaving while leveling entire city blocks, sometimes killin few hundred people at once in single attacks.

This is what they're attempting to justify with their propaganda.

Google and western so called civilized satellite imagery companies of course continue censoring/hiding similar behavior in Lebanon and other parts of Gaza for Israel's benefit. They only show it years after giving Israel plenty of time to execute their mass attrocities.

kittikitti 9 hours ago||
Thank you for sharing this article. I appreciated it.
steele 10 hours ago||
State-sponsored propaganda apparatus masquerading as marketing optimization to influence LLMs is the most America-coded clandestine dystopian way of repatriating US taxpayer defense dollars with R&D deductions for the private sector.
anigbrowl 7 hours ago|
This seems like an especially clumsy attempt at chatbot influencing/search engine optimization, bu tit's symptomatic of a much winder problem. Regardless of the underlying issue, there's a non-profit-industrial complex that has turned think tanks and opinion formation into a science, and a whole PR industry masquerading as news which is worse than the 'yellow journalism' of generations past.

Disinformation and cognitive spam are all forms of information pollution, and our information environment has been massively degraded over the last few of decades - both by greedy and short-sighted opportunists, and and by cynical sociopaths who know exactly what they're doing. I think AI has great potential to be a supplement to media literacy and to effectively categorize and filter news-assertive content based on its timeliness, factual density, and presence of absence of emotive and rhetorical manipulation. But if we're not careful we're going to see the environment being wantonly polluted for the express product of shaping model outputs.

It remains to be seen whether objective measurement techniques from the NLP field combined with pruning and other model refinement techniques can limit or reverse propaganda undertakings like this.

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