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Posted by DeepLogin 19 hours ago

Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots(responsiblestatecraft.org)
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Taikhoom10 13 hours ago|
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arionhardison 18 hours ago||
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bobbytheblkbear 18 hours ago||
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flyinglizard 18 hours ago||
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dxsm 18 hours ago|||
If a country is committing a genocide, running an "influence campaign" to whitewash or otherwise downplay the issue is morally reprehensible.
arionhardison 18 hours ago|||
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flyinglizard 18 hours ago||
I'm really sorry you have these strong feelings, however, the first two links don't even mention Israel, and the third quotes the closest thing Israel has to a Nazi party, of which I assure you there are plenty in many countries.
dxsm 18 hours ago|||
Your comment history shows that you primarily comment in an attempt to discredit or disparage anything you feel is anti-Israel.
oliculipolicula 13 hours ago||
Thank you.

It should be noted that this piece hasn't been downweighted off the frontpage

I suspect that dang is trying to extract some previously unobtainable upside from the contrarian dynamic . Mad respect.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

What he is looking for (I presume) is a center-right or centrist to land a thoughtful comment that get upvotes or at least not attract downvotes from anything left of center. (Without leaning on the crutch of credibility/accumulated karma)

Imho constraints make it almost impossible in this thread. Less almost impossible is for a center left to larp a centrist just long enough to land the same comment.

That's a impossibly tall order given my writing skills, but I think you (or eg tptacek/gwern using sockpuppet) could do it ;)

arionhardison 18 hours ago|||
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UnashamedJew 14 hours ago||
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elevation 14 hours ago||
It's not surprising to see any number of players running these kinds of campaigns. LLMs are already influencing people at scale.

SEO was a powerful technique 20 years ago, but today the power lies in optimizing content for the ability to influence LLM training. LLM influence is a battle ground that marketing companies and political movements are contending for.

daishi55 13 hours ago|||
I think the difference is probably related to the ends being pursued by each of those states at the moment. Only one is engaged in what the UN, HRW, and most legal experts call a genocide. So influence operations in support of an ongoing genocide are just more noteworthy than your run-of-the-mill authoritarianism/corruption.
pessimizer 13 hours ago||
The difference is that they are not doing these things. This is just hasbara against other enemies that Israel is targeting. They believe that the entire Middle East was promised to them by God, and they call other people jihadis.
eth0up 14 hours ago|||
I think it may get a bit more attention in the US due to Section 219 of NDAA 2027, which does add more layers to the situation than say, Turkiye. The implications are on a different level. And with all four frontier models having contracts with the Pentagon, it has me thinking too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Israel_FUTURES_A...

vachina 14 hours ago|||
Oh someone is badder than me so I’m allowed to do bad things.
toomim 13 hours ago||
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daishi55 13 hours ago||
It’s not “the Jews” it’s Israel, and I suspect the greater attention is due to the greater crimes being perpetrated by the Israeli government compared to those other states.
hackernud3s 13 hours ago||
So if you learned that other states are committing greater crimes, then you would agree that the reporting is anti-semitic?
daishi55 2 hours ago||
Absolutely! If Pakistan started committing a genocide and nobody talked about it but continued talking about Israel’s genocide, I would start to ask some questions. That is not the case though, no country on the planet is currently doing anything nearly as awful as Israel. So the coverage is well-calibrated.
breezybottom 12 hours ago|||
Clearly you've done it, so feel free to post your reports.
remoroid 14 hours ago||
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tomhow 9 hours ago|||
We've banned this account for evidently being a single-topic account that posts almost nothing that's within HN's guidelines. We've asked you before to observe the guidelines. Plenty of people criticize Israel's policies and actions in these threads, which is acceptable under the guidelines, but continuous shitposting like this has to incur a consequence eventually, otherwise the site would be overrun by it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

YZF 14 hours ago|||
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worik 13 hours ago||
Really?

I have seen none, perhaps in comments downvoted to illegability

Can you name some, please?

YZF 12 hours ago||
They do tend to get downvoted. But I have seen them on HN lot. Blaming the Jews for everything. Telling people how evil Jews are etc. Presumably you can still search downvoted comments (unless maybe mods nuke them, I've no idea) - search for "jew"/"jews" (or some of the antisemitic synonyms).
remoroid 11 hours ago||
Yeah jews dont know HN exists, they spent 0 dollars of their 1 billion dollar Hasbara budget[1] on astroturfing HN /s

[1]https://quincyinst.org/research/the-eighth-front-inside-isra...

defrost 11 hours ago||
Case in point, that's the actions of the Israeli government, not the actions of "the Jews" as a collective.

Not all Jewish citizens of Israel support the actions of their government and certainly not all Jewish people globally do so either.

aristofun 12 hours ago||
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karim79 12 hours ago|
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dandare 5 hours ago||
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guilamu 5 hours ago||
For some reason this page exists only in French, but it says a lot about the credibility of the ADL: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League#Controv...
karim79 5 hours ago||
Yeah terrorists. Because, they're just terrorists. Happened for no reason. Just bad people. Sorry but your bullshit narrative is collapsing.
the_origami_fox 9 hours ago||
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samrus 9 hours ago|
This appears to not be discussing the article at all. To me it looks like and attempt at IDF propaganda
the_origami_fox 9 hours ago||
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timedude 2 hours ago|
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