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Posted by sunils34 13 hours ago

Cerebras CS-4(www.cerebras.ai)
345 points | 214 commentspage 3
tamimio 11 hours ago|
I wonder what are the benchmarks of hashcat on different hashes.
OutOfHere 12 hours ago||
Five years from now, I don't know why anyone will still be using Nvidia for inference. Note that Cerebras is for inference only, not for training.

I understand that Cerebras has competition, but this bodes even more poorly for Nvidia for inference. Nvidia may still have a role to play for training, however.

dgellow 5 hours ago||
NVIDIA has the best supply chain in the entire game. They are the only ones who can produce at their scale. You really shouldn’t underestimate their position
kcb 9 hours ago|||
Nvidia is at this time a pretty well run company tech wise. They are going to keep iterating on the inferencing hardware stack over the next five years too.
OutOfHere 3 hours ago||
The only way I see in which Nvidia can catch up is by buying Cerebras.
wmf 12 hours ago||
Cerebras is only claiming ~2x the performance of Groqvidia which usually isn't enough for people to switch.
adventured 9 hours ago||
OpenAI needs to immediately move to acquire Cerebras.

Nvidia's extreme margin is the opportunity for OpenAI's cost reduction. Buying Cerebras would pay for itself and they should take all of its future production (after filling required contracts).

Right now China's models have no silicon moat. Cerebras as a drastic speed-up / cost-reduction potential, can assist in building a competitive moat. And every time a Cerebras pops up, OpenAI or Anthropic should eat them if at all possible.

There's no stand-alone frontier AI company of great scale in the near future that doesn't have a large silicon advantage in-house. Apple knew it in smartphones, Google figured it out a long time ago as well.

thefounder 8 hours ago|||
With what? More debt? What will nvidia say?
wmf 9 hours ago||
Do you know about Jalapeno?
mmmeff 8 hours ago||
^

OpenAI is partnering with Cerebras while simultaneously investing in their own silicon play. Hedged bets.

After sitting thru their keynote today, it makes sense. The main throughput speedups they tout are an obvious evolution of the GPU that all companies will be building in the next year. Wafer-scale interconnected memory and compute is just going to beat out mountains of network cabling any day on both cost and performance metrics.

gpm 12 hours ago|
Is it just me or is it bizarre that they're advertising old open-weight models.

GLM 4.7 (December 2025) not 5 (Feb) 5.1 (April) or 5.2 (June). 5.3 (4 days ago) is, to be fair, not open weights yet... but there's a lot since 4.7.

Kimi K2.7 (April) not K2.7-code (June) or K3 (July).

Gemma 4 (April), Llama (April), and gpt-oss (August 2025) are up to date, but old (for models).

Meanwhile the closed source GPT 5.6 sol is up to date (June)...

Should potential purchasers take away from this that they're not going to be able to run recent models unless they front the cost of developing software or something?

eli 12 hours ago|
I think they run whatever models they get paid to run. But mostly from enterprise. They are clearly not interested in consumer dollars.
gpm 11 hours ago||
I mean the product is a server rack and while there's no advertised price I would assume it's six figures. So yes, an enterprise product.

But even an enterprise is going to care about the difference between "we can run the model we want with support from the manufacturer" and "we have to purchase the product, and then spend another 6 figure sum having developers port a recent model to the product to use it".

kube-system 10 hours ago|||
You’re at least an order or magnitude under… likely two.

A single AI server with a mere 8 GPUs from Nvidia is already mid 6 digits. A rack system from Nvidia is mid 7 digits.

There’s some info out there that suggests the CS1 had an 8 digits price tag, so it wouldn’t be surprising to see that here.

gpm 10 hours ago||
Yeah, did some googling after WarmWash's comment and I concur.
WarmWash 11 hours ago|||
I feel like 6-figures would be the clearance price on it...
oceanplexian 11 hours ago||
6 figures is a single mid range Xeon or Epyc server these days.