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Posted by tosh 8 hours ago

OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)(developers.openai.com)
268 points | 242 commentspage 3
bronlund 5 hours ago|
It's going to be like gas. Token prices are going to change multiple times a day.
NietTim 8 hours ago||
These price drops are absolutely bonkers. Gotta love competition! Glad we didn't end up with a duopoly of openai and anthropic, we got a glimpse of what nightmare that would've been and it wasn't pretty
trizoza 6 hours ago||
If it's on sale, it can't be that good.
VulgarExigency 6 hours ago||
Maybe it's because I don't use it in Codex, but I don't like working with Sol. It CONSTANTLY omits things it shouldn't, and is always dispatching sub-agents to do what I tell it to do, that don't have all the necessary context, and so they go on and do the research that was already done by the top-level agent. It's maddening.

I tried it again today because of the discount, it told me it couldn't run acceptance tests because a .env file did not exist, and when I showed it the damn file it went "ah, it's there now". I think it was the first time I've ever had an agent try to gaslight me.

stillpointlab 6 hours ago|
I'd give it some more time. My first interactions with Sol were not good. It cut a dangerous corner and I had to call it out.

But I continued to work with it and found that it was mostly my own style of interacting that needed to change. In a way it is similar to a new co-worker, they have their own personality and ways of working. Once I figured that out I have been able to get very good work out of Sol.

Sol seems to work better when you are clear, precise, direct and unambiguous. The model seems annoyed if things aren't spelled out. Not micro-managing, it seems to have a high bar for specific intent.

When I get Fable to write out specs for Sol, I tell Fable that Sol is a nit-picking literalist that is exceptional at instruction following. So far this description has lead Fable to generate specs that Sol implements at a high quality.

yomismoaqui 7 hours ago||
Thanks to both China & capitalism
wahnfrieden 8 hours ago||
Not for subscribers though
ok123456 8 hours ago||
Subscribers already get random rolling resets.
TuxSH 8 hours ago|||
Which is not that great for people using less than 50% every week, because the next reset date moves forward too. In essence, it is redistributing compute from people who haven't used their quota much to those who have.

Though I think they gave a banked reset this time.

throw8494949839 5 hours ago||
Pretty much. I had 24 hours left with 80% remaining credit (planned big session tomorrow). There was reset one hour ago, that effectively halved my tokens for next 8 days!
sejje 6 hours ago|||
Do they take them back? Codex a few weeks ago said I had 2 resets. I didn't use any, and now it doesn't say that.
ModernMech 6 hours ago||
They do in fact expire.
calumcl 6 hours ago|||
Subscribers were already getting subsidised compute and value compared to the 20-200$ fee, peak cakeism to want more considering the alternative would likely be consumption based pricing for individuals so you "benefit" from OpenAI giving up some of their markup (and heavy users end up SOL).
wahnfrieden 3 hours ago||
Looks like you’ve confused clarification for begging
calumcl 3 hours ago||
There was context for neither in your original post and I personally saw a lot of similar takes like the above online - apologies for the misunderstanding. I personally thought it was pretty clear considering the parent link is a link to the API pricing and their public communication on their twitter/blogs were "Subscription usage remains unchanged".
wahnfrieden 3 hours ago||
Typically subscription usage follows API pricing, but that disclaimer was absent from this HN link. It's only clear if you've seen those other communications
skybrian 8 hours ago||
How do you know? I see a “weekly usage limit” bar in my ChatGPT settings, but I’m pretty fuzzy about what makes it go down.

If I stick with Luna, I can make it through the week.

Kye 8 hours ago||
ChatGPT Work and Codex use that. Normal chat has a different, unspecified limit.
skybrian 6 hours ago||
Yep. I'm actually using ChatGPT integration via exe.dev to write code. It uses my subscription through an API and runs down the usage limit in a similar way.

The part I don't understand is how usage is "charged" against this limit.

kylepomykala 7 hours ago||
Very exciting - if only anthropic would do the same.
kosolam 7 hours ago||
Does it mean that subscriptions get more tokens? I’m testing it now for coding instead of claude and it’s very important to understand if I get more due to the price reduction.
ChrisArchitect 8 hours ago||
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49396590
tom1337 8 hours ago|
completely offtopic but how are you always there with a valid dupe link?
ChrisArchitect 5 hours ago||
Read the site regularly. Saw it come up. Remembered it from earlier. 2 days old news now.
Culonavirus 6 hours ago|
Ed is gonna have a field day with this lol.
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