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Posted by iand 8 hours ago

IPFS Maintainers Winding Down(ipshipyard.com)
305 points | 152 commentspage 3
aftbit 5 hours ago|
I tried to query a lot of resources (NFT images, many of which are/were hosted on IPFS) from IPFS myself using the official Go server, running on some pretty fast/wide hardware, for a good part of 2021 and 2022. It was a dumpster fire. Here are two specific problems that I remember, though I ran into several more. First, the UDP storm that it created somehow broke my network, where all of my switches gave up and just started sending all of its traffic to all of the nodes on the network. That could have been a "me" thing but it really made it hard to trust. I ended up having to give that server its own VLAN. Second, the caching was brain dead. By default, it would write every resource to the cache even if I was just using it to download them to a local directory, so it wrote everything twice. Even worse, when the cache was full, it would just drop the whole cache, which created huge spikes in IO util. I ended up patching the app to remove caching.

It felt like a really cool demo that never got cleaned up to work as a real production product.

Animats 5 hours ago|
Ouch.

Remember Filecoin? The original concept was that you could buy perpetual storage with a one time payment. It was funded by a crypto asset which was a derivative of mass storage prices, or something like that. Lighthouse supposedly sold such a product.[1] They no longer do.[2]

[1] https://www.lighthouse.storage/blogs/Permanent%20Storage%20P...

[2] https://www.lighthouse.storage/pricing

ryanshahine 4 hours ago||
Filecoin never marketed perpetual storage with a one time payment. Lighthouse is a standalone company.
tingletech 5 hours ago||
I always thought https://named-data.net in this are was pretty interesting
amelius 4 hours ago||
Wasn't the problem with IPFS always that it allowed random strangers to put data on your machine, which could make you an accessory in crime?
greyface- 3 hours ago||
IPFS doesn't fetch or store content that the user has not explicitly requested. If your application allows strangers to request arbitrary IPFS objects, this might be a concern. Otherwise, no, simply running a node doesn't expose you to this risk.
amelius 3 hours ago||
Ok, then I misremembered, thanks.

(Couldn't it be that the caching behavior of intermediate nodes still make it a possibility?)

nikisweeting 3 hours ago||
You can choose what you pin when you run a node, no one can force you to host stuff you don't want to host.
tylergetsay 4 hours ago||
Has anyone looked at ar.io and have any opinions on it? They claim you are paying for 200 years upfront with a kind of endowment like setup.
sneak 6 hours ago||
IPFS never worked right for many years. Great concept, poor implementation. Someone will one day build something that incorporates these ideas.
jhoechtl 3 hours ago||
The shit hit the fan once filecoin became intertwined with IPFS. So DOA long time ago.
Razengan 4 hours ago||
One of the good things about AI could be people picking up or reviving unmaintained open-source projects more easily.
sunshine-o 4 hours ago||
The question is why IPFS did not get the traction something like Tor had for decades?

I believe the fundamental problem of those protocols is everyone fear ending up serving child porn just by running a "node" and taking a chance at explaining the future P2P internet to a judge.

IPFS got a CID deny list [0] but it was too little too late

- [0] https://badbits.dwebops.pub/

zaik 2 hours ago|
Other nodes cannot make you host arbitrary content you did not request yourself.
sunshine-o 2 hours ago||
I was talking about running a public IPFS gateway. This is what the deny list is for.
sadclown42 1 hour ago||
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rvz 7 hours ago|
Another shut down post which many of its users did not support the maintainers.

You are going to see a lot more shutdown posts around decentralized or federated technologies if you do not support those tools.

its-summertime 6 hours ago||
Protocol Labs owned significant parts of the infrastructure. Regardless of community support, PL leaving would always be damaging.
dgellow 7 hours ago||
There are close to no users of IPFS
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