Ox-Alpha Is GLM? - Hacker News

Posted by jitbit 12 hours ago

45 points | 15 comments

jerrythegerbil 28 seconds ago|

As someone who uses NCD nearly every day, I have concerns about how it’s been used here.

But while we’re “guessing”: Xiaomi MiMO

volf_ 11 hours ago||

GLM 5.3 and all previous models don't have a vision encoder and can only accept text. Ox-Alpha can accept video and images, so unless Z-ai added a pretty good vision encoder for this model, I don't think so.

My money is on Moonshot and this being Kimi K3.5. The measured tps and latency is in-line with K3's tps and latency from Moonshot.

MiniMax M3.5 is also possible (but the MiniiMax provider is a lot more performant than the lab behind ox-alpha, so less likely).

minimaxir 49 minutes ago||

The other tell from the provider angle is capacity. Whoever is hosting Ox Alpha has a lot of capacity which narrows down a lot of the Chinese companies.

nylonstrung 9 hours ago|||

It would be stranger to me that Kimi switched to GLM's tokenizer than that GLM added multimodal like Kimi and Deepseek both did recently

Bolwin 11 hours ago|||

Glm had made vision models in the past. Look up GLM 5v.

The only question now is if it's 5.3v, 5.4/5.5 or a dedicated flash/vision model

volf_ 10 hours ago||

Yeah. It could be. The Z.ai DC latency is still ~1.2s faster than whomever is serving this model.

Almondsetat 11 hours ago||

DeepSeek literally just came out with the vision-enabled version of Flash v4 which was purely text based. Why would GLM not be able to do the same thing?

volf_ 10 hours ago||

It's possible

xorgun 30 minutes ago||

Dont rule out ssi

nullbio 35 seconds ago|

That would be insanely disappointing.

ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago||

Ox Alpha

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49381896

behnamoh 24 minutes ago|

You must have so much time on your hands to go to such great length to dox an anon model on the internet. What new piece of information am I supposed to learn from this passage?

minimaxir 22 minutes ago|

You cannot "dox" an AI model.

Given the traction the model has received, it is extremely newsworthy to know who's developing and hosting it.

behnamoh 21 minutes ago||

my question is: how does that affect a company's strategy? it's not like management is gonna switch models soon as a new shiny one drops. entire workflows depend on specific models working the way they do; you can't just swap out models.

minimaxir 19 minutes ago||

If it's a really really good model, then yes, people will switch as long as the price is right. Ox Alpha is looking to be a really really good model to the point that it competes with Fable/Sol, and will likely beat them on price.