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Posted by tcp_handshaker 5 hours ago

Oceans hit highest temperature on record(www.bbc.com)
364 points | 241 commentspage 4
xyst 2 hours ago|
humanity is quite literally cooking.

it was a nice run while it lasted, but seems humanity is nearing its end as the world/nature is trying to purge humanity to save itself.

bpavuk 3 hours ago||
okay, now we are boiling the ocean. literally.

P.S. for pedantic folk: yeah, it's far from the actual boiling threshold of ~100°C, but to boil the humanity, you don't even have to go 80-90% of the way there

kylehotchkiss 2 hours ago||
I often think of how much of government lethargy to climate change is because of miserable marketing like Greta thunburg yelling at a bunch of old EU bureaucrats or teenagers throwing paint at art or glueing themselves to highways.

There was too few “there are green technologies superior to the carbon based ones” (heat pumps got really good).

Well, there are two problem spaces - innovating ways to reduce emissions AND inventing new ways to help people cope with rising temperatures - and I hear very little about the second one despite the immediate humanitarian need for it

lanon123 3 hours ago||
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npc36586 2 hours ago||
Humanity has only a few weeks left. Because some awful people decided to vote for Trump.
karol 4 hours ago||
OMG, that's like 200 years of 4.5bn?
jgord 3 hours ago|
to be fair.. almost all of human civilization happened over the last ~10k years, the Holocene, during which the climate was unusually stable.

Its reasonable to question whether our agriculture at scale is adaptable to such sudden climate change.

hydrolox 3 hours ago||
it's not just reasonable to question, it's all but obvious and anyone who comes up with a retort like "what about millions/billions of years before civilization" is being, at best, insincere
floro 3 hours ago|
The biggest lie we're being told in the west is that we have a hand in climate change. China produces 60% of global Co2. When you look at the graph, Europe isn't even visible.

If we truly cared about climate change we would stop buying from China. But we all know this won't ever happen because we don't really care enough. It's just virtue signaling.

Buy an AC you're not saving the planet by sweating your ass off.

Windchaser 3 hours ago||
> The biggest lie we're being told in the west is that we have a hand in climate change.

If you look at total historic emissions to date, the US is responsible for 25% of all of them, and the EU is close behind at 22%. China is at 13%. And if you look at historic emissions per person, then each American has produced ~8x as much as the average Chinese person.

https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2

Yes, the west has played the dominant role in GHG emissions. I don't blame China for now, quite recently, increasing their GHG emissions as they try to get to standards of living we've had for many decades. As we led the way into the industrial revolution and high GHG emissions, we should also lead the way back out. And yet US emissions per capita are still about 50% higher than Chinese!

contingencies 3 hours ago||
Also, to be more holistic in evaluating things through this icky nationalist lens, China has been a globally significant contributor to alternate fuels including solar and micro-hydro, plus the transition to EVs notably including EV buses (now becoming globally popular) and high speed rail.
Quarrelsome 16 minutes ago|||
go to shop, notice that much food has been flown in from the four corners of the earth just to satisfy you.

Go home, look at all the objects in your house, do the same thing. Then tell you that this has nothing to do with you.

Dumblydorr 3 hours ago||
Per capita emissions are way higher in the USA. It’d make a much bigger dent if Americans changed their ways than citizens of developing nations.