Don't Wordle - Hacker News

Posted by Hbruz0 18 hours ago

327 points | 117 commentspage 2

NikolaNovak 14 hours ago|

Like it, but would love a "No Undo" option, or at least, "don't force undo".

My friends and I share our wordle results daily. Would like to add this, but so that if you guess in three or four tries, that's OK, that's just your score for the day. Right now game forces me to undo if I have reduced option space to fewer words than there are remaining guesses, and that's quite annoying for how we'd want to play :)

huhtenberg 17 hours ago||

Some of the suggested plays for yellow EA and green H after the first guess:

    ALMEH
    BEKAH
    BELAH
    DEASH
    OBEAH
    SELAH

Not much fun to play with a dictionary like this :-/

pimlottc 16 hours ago|

And yet it didn’t accept JORTS :/

taneq 7 hours ago|||

Many places don’t accept jorts. :P

MarkusQ 16 hours ago|||

I can respect finding JORTS unacceptable.

apparent 4 hours ago||

Pretty cool. I wonder at what point it makes sense to actually try to guess what the actual word is and then figure out which words you should guess in order to avoid it.

dang 12 hours ago||

Show HN: Can you lose at Wordle if you tried? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31572258 - May 2022 (236 comments)

grocery_stores 17 hours ago||

One thing I find odd about the rules: it forces you to respect what you've learned via green or yellow tiles, but not gray tiles. The spirit of the rules suggests once you've learned a letter is not in the word, you shouldn't be able to reuse that letter. Perhaps that would simply make the game too difficult, though.

kevsim 17 hours ago||

It didn't let me guess things that had already been eliminated with gray tiles.

ChrisRR 17 hours ago|||

Isn't that rule 3?

pbronez 17 hours ago||

It does - you can type them but it rejects the word when you submit it.

I think this DOES make it way harder than regular wordle.

steinvakt2 16 hours ago||

Cool. Surprisingly difficult. I made an art game inspired by wordle some years ago. My dad and I still play it daily. https://artle.eu

gpvos 12 hours ago||

It took me a minute to find out that I needed to close the instructions to see the actual game. A Play button would have been nice.

lucideer 17 hours ago||

I tried playing this as if its wordle & got it in 2 guesses. How do they do this ??? That's next to impossible in wordle & the probalities seem like they should be the same?

tedmiston 15 hours ago||

By playing Wordle well, you are essentially eliminating as much unknown words as possible each turn, e.g., SALET alone takes 12974 words down to 34 here today.

But this is like Wordle hard mode with the forced letters, so the optimal strategy is probably to invert and eliminate as little words as possible each turn.

I got pretty far here using weird words, but PIZZA turned out to be a terrible first guess for Don't Wordle (eliminating ~75% of the words):

    *      12974
    PIZZA   3169
    AQUAS    290
    SAWED     17
    MEASE      7
    LEASH      0

lucideer 13 hours ago||

Wordle hard mode (which I play) generally limits you to a similar degree as this game - it's less strict programmatically, but anyone willingly opting into hard mode is likely following the same rules as are enforced here.

So it should be the same.

(assuming here that you're deliberately attempting to lose this game).

quietbritishjim 14 hours ago|||

I think you really did just get lucky. It does pick a word up front at the start.

f2474l 16 hours ago||

The game is cheating I guess

seeking_future 6 hours ago||

hmm, if you quote unquote must use the letters locked in from the previous example, then they should be brought down to the previous row and locked in by default no? a robot could have fixed that for lessthan 5000 tokens i bet.

Murfalo 14 hours ago|

    *      12974
    QAJAQ   1979
    PZAZZ    861
    OBANG    449
    URARI    232
    FLAFF     58
    DWALM     10

(totally didn't cheat: https://github.com/murfalo/dontwordle-assistant)

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