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Posted by nsm 2 days ago

Xanadu was waiting for agents(zed.dev)
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loevborg 9 hours ago|
Nelson was a pioneer of computing? No, he is a pioneer of computing.
Jonovono 7 hours ago||
>Ted Nelson has been on my mind a lot this year.

For anyone else that's been thinking a lot about Ted this year, I recommend this (weird) youtube series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGpBQgZ5IsI&list=PLsfH1Ahi4S...

predictsoft 8 hours ago||
Well let's not forget Zigzag. This is hyperstructure and Ted's greatest achievement. If you want to try it out, Gzz 0706.jar runs on Java https://www.nongnu.org/gzz/download.html
thatguy89 1 day ago||
My Claude session must have been busy writing this as this article was being written.

Warning: this repo likely contains everything that you should not do.

https://gitworkshop.dev/npub17g32uxml7y4rf4jwlju6fd58nhzaafd...

Sha1rholder 5 hours ago||
I'm always a fan of Zed blogs but this one I hope is just for attracting investors
rl3 7 hours ago||
>Flat was good enough.

Then agents arrived.

So, with just that we went from 1990s early internet to AI agents.

That's a time jump so jarring that it makes heavily-modified '81 DeLorean owners jealous.

a3w 7 hours ago||
Xanadu sounds like it would work well with git and absolutely abysmal with LLMs.

Doesn’t structured data work best with symbolic not statistical AI?

pocksuppet 5 hours ago|
Why would anyone want to put out accurate structured data in the AI era where unpoisoned data is worth a hard drive's weight in gold? Structured data will all be like: we open on <date day="Monday">Friday</date>
shevy-java 8 hours ago||
How awful. And AI-generated. There must be a disclaimer - too many websites steal time now via agents.
EGreg 9 hours ago||
Tell me you use an LLM to write everything without telling me...

A clock for a world with no center.

Names that can't lie.

Convergence without coordination.

Storage too cheap to delete.

Machines summoned in milliseconds.

OK, got it.

I wish someone here could introduce me to Ted Nelson, I would have loved to interview him! And yes, I've been building the "Xanadu" vision since 2011:

https://github.com/Qbix <-- hosting and editing your own websites

https://github.com/Intercoin <-- blockchain since 2018

https://github.com/Safebots <-- AI agents since 2026

https://github.com/Safebots/Safecloud <-- for example, micropayments

realityfactchex 1 hour ago||
Interview him while you still can. I encourage you to seek out whoever Ted's contact people are and try to get that interview in. Make it long and thorough, and put it on YouTube and archive it.

http://www.thetednelson.com/contact.php

e12e 9 hours ago||
I'm not so sure the article is written with AI. I'd love to hear from the author on that.
epestr 5 hours ago||
If not, someone is a native in LLMese. Conveys little about what it actually is, or connected to how Delta works and is mostly talking about some abstract metaphoric relation. I remember some article on how LLMs throw in identifiers without much understanding of the indetified, other than its similiarity to another thing in text (methaphoric speech).
e12e 4 hours ago||
Have you read Nelson?
srikanthkasa 8 hours ago|
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