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Posted by jwise0 9 hours ago

Refurbishing a Tektronix TDS7104 Oscilloscope(tomverbeure.github.io)
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jlawrence6809 7 hours ago|
I just had claude walk me through refurbishing a Rohde & Schwarz signal generator from the 90s. It feels pretty cool getting a multi thousand dollar piece of equipment for 60 bucks even if you have no idea what you'll use it for.
tverbeure 7 hours ago|
Was that by any chance the R&S AMIQ that I refurbished in an earlier blog post?

And yes, it's a lot of fun bringing these bargain bin pieces of kit back to life.

jlawrence6809 7 hours ago||
My model is an SMIQ03E actually! I've grown quite addicted to going to my local 2nd hand electronics store in recent months scrounging for anything with an rs232 port!
tverbeure 7 hours ago||
I looked for a SMIQ for quite a while to go along with the AMIQ, but eventually settled for the R&S SFQ TV test transmitter that you can see here: https://tomverbeure.github.io/2026/06/28/Rohde-Schwarz-AMIQ-....

It can be used a vector RF signal generator with I/Q inputs. The only limitation is the reduced input bandwidth.

jlawrence6809 6 hours ago||
Very cool! Yeah I lucked out finding mine. It was in the intake section at my 2nd hand electronics store. It had a broken power button so they were selling it "as-is". A button repair and battery swap later I have a 3.3Ghz VNA. Can't complain!
beala 1 hour ago||
That's a great find, but afaict that model doesn't have VNA capabilities, does it? However, if you also stumble on a spectrum analyzer at that second hand store, you could combine them into a scalar network analyzer.
jlawrence6809 47 minutes ago||
Oops yeah you're right, it's a VNG. A VNA would be great to have though! I wonder if these agents are going to just increase the utility of ever piece of equipment people can hook them to.
slhomme 8 hours ago||
Love this. I knew nothing about oscilloscopes until just a few months ago, when reasearched and bought one from a science lab. It wasfor a personal side project. I gutted it out and installed a mini PC inside, and now i run AI models into it. It's like my personal AI assistance. Hooked up to OpenAI realtime voice, grok bot, claude code, etc so I can command it to do stuff even when my main computer is off.

I just mainly love the retro-moder look of it. Here's a link to how it looks, for those curious:

https://x.com/slhomme/status/1965131874734584291

I had now idea there was such a huge second-hand market for those. It was such a great opportunity to learn about this tech.

OldSchool 5 hours ago||
10 GS/sec is very impressive as far as I'm concerned! One sample every 20mm or so at typical transmission line speed.

That said, anything with a floppy drive scares me because it undeniably indicates how old it is. My SDS7102V is no Tektronix, but an honest 1 GS/sec and at the time, under $200 on eBay.

jhallenworld 7 hours ago||
Yeah 1 GHz is nice, but that tiny 200 MHz Siglent is going to be much more useful in practice for most things.

Speaking of boat anchors, I'm trying to get my company to buy a DSA91304a (13 GHz scope with SERDES debugging). ~$44K with all the options, but still Windows-XP. The Windows-7 ones unfortunately don't have the options I want. Maybe there is a hack..

liamkinne 3 hours ago||
I have a 1.5GHz TDS7154B in addition to my 200MHz SDS1204 specifically to measure power rail noise with a low noise probe.

You just can’t characterise power rail noise well with less than 500MHz of bandwidth.

tverbeure 7 hours ago|||
As I wrote: the TDS7104 is now sitting on a shelf in the garage, next to an Agilent 54831 and some other boat anchors. My daily drivers are a Siglent scope and a puny TDS220, which is about to be replaced by a TDS3052 that I'm bringing back to life. Hobbyists rarely need more than 100 MHz BW.

I hope you're able to thoroughly test that DSA91304a before dropping $44k on it!

amelius 6 hours ago||
200 MHz is good enough for most things. And for modern computing electronics even 1GHz is too slow, e.g. monitoring USB3 or high speed PCIE data lanes.

Did you get a price quote for that keysight oscilloscope? I see that you can also rent them for $2000 a month.

jhallenworld 3 hours ago||
We've rented them in the past- always we're not quite sure we're done so keep them much longer than necessary. They're kind of a pain to pack and ship.
sdcfgy 8 hours ago||
Give it a month and the acquisition ASICs will blow up and the caps will eat through the board traces. Can’t stand these scopes.
tverbeure 7 hours ago||
Nice, so I'll get even more entertainment out of it!

The equipment that's bought and sold at the electronics flea market typically isn't used as a means to an end, it is the end. There's disappointment when you buy something there and it just works. There's no fun in that.

I don't really have a use for a R&S AMIQ, but replacing all the PC motherboard caps taught me a lot about good desoldering practices. https://tomverbeure.github.io/2026/06/28/Rohde-Schwarz-AMIQ-...

sdcfgy 7 hours ago||
Yeah agreed. I’ve fixed more Tek equipment than most people out there. In the order of hundreds of units.

These are just exceptionally bad.

sitzkrieg 1 hour ago|||
i thought maybe it was just something regionally here or the way people stored em, but i was in a position to refab many a few years ago and totally agree. tek had 100% repart rate and seemed like anything else (brand wise) was always in better condition internally even when way older.
drzaiusx11 3 hours ago|||
I'm blanking on the exact models I used; I'm fairly certain they were tds700s or tds71xx, but a lab I ran had about a dozen units and we had nothing "fry" in the 4 years I worked there. What applications would result in these catastrophic failures?
tverbeure 3 hours ago||
Over the years, I've had 5 TDSxxx series scopes, and I still have a few. The common issues are:

NuColor CRT displays going bad. Bad capacitors. Dallas NVRAM units battery running out of juice

Fried electronics are pretty rare.

drzaiusx11 2 hours ago||
We had some "ghosting" on the displays on a few now that you mentioned it, but they were still 100% usable. I guess my expectations were lower since I never had to foot the bill for the lot of em (which at 20k/unit I guess I'd be upset about when one was faulty)
stmw 6 hours ago||
For a brief second, I thought this was about an original 7104.

Are there specific TDS models that you have found to be better, btw, reliability-wise?

jhallenworld 2 hours ago||
>an original 7104

I've got one, they are very cool. I also have a 7834 (storage tube), cool in a different way. On the other hand, they are taking up a lot of space... I also have two 485s, one with a broken trigger.

hex4def6 7 hours ago||
Is the PC mainboard separate from all the tek ASIC etc stuff? If so, what's the interface? PCMCIA? PCI?

I'm just wondering how difficult it would be to use a more modern bit of kit in there instead of the Celeron.

tverbeure 7 hours ago|
Yes, it's completely separate. There is a PCI2PCI bridge between the PC motherboard and the PowerPC controller board, which has in turn an interface PCB to the acquisition board.

People have replaced the RadiSys motherboard with one from a Gateway PC. There aren't a lot of other options though: the motherboard must be an NLX type and that was a short-lived format. It's different for scopes like the Agilent 54831 (https://tomverbeure.github.io/2026/03/28/Repair-of-Two-Agile...) that I revived a couple of months ago: people do crazy things with that, making it work with higher resolution LCD panels, upgrading to completely different CPU classes, running Windows 10 etc.

It's remarkable that these scopes have both a PC and a PowerPC motherboard. I think they were a reaction to Agilent scopes: they wanted a PC front-end and reused the PowerPC infrastructure with VxWorks OS that they already had from other generations, so they just slapped an extra motherboard on it.

liamkinne 3 hours ago||
I recently did something similar with a TDS7154B. Rather than going with an IDE/PATA drive I was able to use the SATA Gen1 ports on the motherboard and a molex-sata power adapter to use a modern SSD.
tverbeure 22 minutes ago|
Using SATA gen 1 would be ideal, but the TDS7104 motherboard is old enough not to have that: it doesn't support booting from a USB stick.
dematz 6 hours ago||
A bit ago a semi-retired guy came back to help with some stuff including debugging serial ports. It was very cool to see him fiddle with the knobs and be like "oh those squiggles look good" "no that doesn't look right" etc. https://i.imgur.com/R5aEXbq.jpeg

Meanwhile total mystery to everyone else how to operate/interpret the machine but a lot of fun

tverbeure 6 hours ago|
One totally needs a 500 MHz oscilloscope to debug a kHz range serial port signal! :-)
OldSchool 5 hours ago||
Family and friends aren't impressed by experiments measuring C either...
milleramp 8 hours ago||
The TDS500, 600 and 700 series can expand memory by removing zero ohm resistors.
tverbeure 8 hours ago|
My TDS754D is waiting for the resistor and capacitor mod that converts it from a 500MHz/2Gsps scope into a TDS784D with 1 GHz/4Gsps.

Still, entering an easy to generate license key is less intrusive than removing a resistor.

drzaiusx11 6 hours ago|
Many fond memories of using these. Glad someone is keeping them going after 20+ years of service.
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