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Posted by timpera 10 hours ago

The ChatGPT/Codex app bundles a full copy of LibreOffice(simonwillison.net)
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lennart-rth 7 hours ago|
I suspect that it’s used in headless clip mode to reliably convert file formats back and forth.
alex-moon 9 hours ago||
Someone may need to explain to me what is wrong with this sorry. Is it because it bloats the app with functionality that some users will never use? I feel like that is fairly usual for productivity/business apps generally.
simonw 9 hours ago||
I don't see anything wrong with it, I just think it's interesting.
alex-moon 9 hours ago|||
Oh right, yeah I agree. It's the kind of thing I can imagine the harness downloading in the background anyway (or instructing the user to do) at some point so I can see the sense in just skipping that bit. Kind of comforting they just do it the same way the rest of us do - if it ain't broke and so on.
nialse 9 hours ago||||
It does, however, introduce a potentially enormous attack surface into ChatGPT, along with creative opportunities for less security conscious individuals and LLMs.
winstonp 9 hours ago|||
I think it's overbloating my computer
OutOfHere 9 hours ago||
Actually, people do use and require the functionality, which is the point. The title as posted might be incorrect.
alex-moon 9 hours ago||
Yes, that's what I mean - maybe that didn't come across cos I said "bloats". I work for a business that builds web apps for corporates - LibreOffice is bundled in most of the repos of ours that I've seen, a bit like Imagick is in the broader sector.
mirzap 8 hours ago||
I wonder why they didn't try to discover if the user already has those binaries and use them before downloading.
duskdozer 11 minutes ago||
Why would they? Storage [they don't have to pay for] is cheap! And just bundling it saves them time.
LtWorf 7 hours ago||
Because they vibe coded it.
Lucasoato 7 hours ago||
Also in the newest app I think the transcription feature is unusable. Ok, I can have a shortcut to start and stop recording. Wow, cool! Ok, but where did the transcription go? In my clipboard? To my cursor? Hey? :(
jrflo 9 hours ago||
I've noticed that when I have codex read/modify word files the live reasoning snippets often allude to LibreOffice, so that makes sense. I think it was a quick and dirty way for them to interface with docx and xlsx files?
gfalcao 7 hours ago||
Are they at least respecting the licenses (.i.e.: providing a verbatim copy of each license?)
zitterbewegung 8 hours ago||
It might be for their new Work product which can produce docx, pdf and pox files.
topaztee 7 hours ago||
spinning up an entire copy of libreoffice sounds super heavy?, if someone here is actually using chatgpt to edit docx documents then they can feel free to use us. vespper.com
woadwarrior01 7 hours ago|
You want something heavier? They were trashing people's SSDs a few months ago. IDK if it's been resolved, yet.

https://x.com/bdsqlsz/status/2067964486615810369

joquarky 5 hours ago||
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
simonw 9 hours ago||
(This is more of a tweet than a blog post, it really wasn't written with Hacker News in mind.)
benatkin 7 hours ago||
Indeed, but that likely wouldn't have stopped someone from submitting it with a misleading title. HN is known to get a lot of misleading titles submitted and to have to change them. The <title> tag is better, it doesn't say "a full copy". In the screenshot it shows "headless" in the filename. I would simply add the tiny detail of headless to the <title> and use this title for HN: Codex Bundles Headless LibreOffice
MattDamonSpace 9 hours ago||
frankly how dare you
mrob 9 hours ago||
How is simonw to blame for somebody else submitting it to HN?
embedding-shape 9 hours ago|||
True, I feel like the entire HN community is to blame for this, particularly pg and dang.
TZubiri 8 hours ago||
Thanks Obama
justsomehnguy 8 hours ago|||
I have a feeling you should learn about Poe's law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
switchbak 8 hours ago||
Anyone quoting Poe's Law is clearly just a Nazi.

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For those that can't see the sarcasm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

dvduval 9 hours ago|
My agent did it? I didn’t do it.
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